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Rock Legend Nick Cave Excoriates San Francisco’s ChatGPT ‘Travesty’
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| Jan. 17, 2023
| Joshua Bote
Posted on 01/18/2023 12:51:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
Nick Cave, the seminal Australian rock figure who helmed the Bad Seeds, had plenty to say about ChatGPT, the text-based chat tech developed by buzzy San Francisco startup OpenAI.
In a letter published Monday in his "The Red Hand Files" newsletter, Cave talked about the humanity of art, the “emerging horror of AI” and ChatGPT’s “grotesque mockery” of his oeuvre.
A New Zealand-based fan sent him a song “written” by the already notorious bot in the style of Cave’s work. To say that the songwriter was unhappy with the song would be underselling his fury.
Cave begins by noting that he’s repeatedly been sent various iterations of “as written by Nick Cave” songs. To put it bluntly, Cave says the song in question “sucks.”
“What ChatGPT is, in this instance, is replication as travesty. ChatGPT may be able to write a speech or an essay or a sermon or an obituary but it cannot create a genuine song,” he wrote in perhaps one of the more brutal callouts of the technology. “It could perhaps in time create a song that is, on the surface, indistinguishable from an original, but it will always be a replication, a kind of burlesque.”
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: ai; chatgpt; nickcave
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To: Chode; Mathews; caver; Dr. Sivana; montag813; EEGator
To: caver
He’s bigger in the U.K. and Oz, and he’s in the alternative genre.
To: nicollo
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01/18/2023 1:31:35 PM PST
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Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: Chode
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01/18/2023 1:33:07 PM PST
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EEGator
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
01/18/2023 1:33:11 PM PST
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Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: o-n-money
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01/18/2023 1:47:51 PM PST
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o-n-money
(Not my president: WRONG Not the president: RIGHT)
To: Chode
Cave is an Australian singer, songwriter, poet, lyricist, author, screenwriter, composer and occasional actor. Definitely a legend .
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01/18/2023 1:50:40 PM PST
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sushiman
To: sushiman
i know i’m old, but when i see “legend” and i never heard of him, i don’t know if i don’t remember? or really never heard of him... 8^)
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01/18/2023 2:02:59 PM PST
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Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: Chode
'Nature Boy' (short version) by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JquzYr-5bE4
To: T.B. Yoits
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01/18/2023 2:26:26 PM PST
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Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: SubMareener
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01/18/2023 2:29:54 PM PST
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steve86
(Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
To: Mr. K
“Did it remember that the next time?”
Yes, it will incorporate the generalized case “remember” for future application.
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01/18/2023 2:31:48 PM PST
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steve86
(Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
To: Chode
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01/18/2023 2:39:23 PM PST
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sushiman
To: WoofDog123
i’ve found it to be reasonably balanced on fossil fuels....havent gone much into gender...
To: Chode
Scroll thru his discography. You may recognize him from a number of film scores (he and Warren Ellis do a lot). I'm not crazy about all of his music...but I definitely have my favorites. His political stand makes me like him even more...
https://www.nickcave.com/music/
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01/18/2023 2:54:37 PM PST
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moovova
("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
To: sushiman
i’ve still never heard of him...
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01/18/2023 3:03:18 PM PST
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Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: moovova
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01/18/2023 3:04:36 PM PST
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Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
To: steve86
How does it do with “I am my grandfather’s grandson” type of joke?
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01/18/2023 3:07:52 PM PST
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Mr. K
(No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
To: SubMareener
Interesting conversation. The machine is a little slow on the uptake, but a lot of humans would be, too.
I guess we're past Turing tests at this point.
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01/18/2023 4:32:12 PM PST
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TChad
(Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
To: ConservativeDude
marc andreeson had a post earlier this month where chatgpt said it was no longer allowed to discuss positive elements of fossil fuel use.
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