Have More Athletes Really Died Suddenly Since Covid-19 Vaccines Arrived?

Forbes ^ | 1/16 | Bruce Y. Lee

[nickcarraway]

If you are going to claim that more athletes have been suffering cardiac arrests and dying over the past two years, you had better sport some real numbers. Some real legitimate verifiable numbers. But that’s not what Tucker Carlson did on his FOX News show “Tucker Carlson Tonight” when he made such a claim. Instead of real numbers, he mentioned a letter. One letter. One letter to the editor of a medical journal to be exact.

But Carlson didn’t even specify that it was a letter in the episode of this show. The episode came after Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin’s had suffered a cardiac arrest. Carlson, who is not a professional athlete, not a professional medical doctor, and not a professional scientist, suggested that there’s been a trend of more athletes suffering cardiac arrest. He asserted that “cardiologist Peter McCullough and researcher Panagis Polykretis looked into this trend in Europe, European sports leagues. They found that prior to Covid and the Covid-19 vaccines there were roughly 29 cardiac arrests in those European sports leagues per year.” Carlson went on to claim, “Since the vax campaign began, there have been more than 1,500 total cardiac arrests in those leagues and two-thirds of those were fatal.”

Hmm, does this sound like McCullough, a cardiologist who was not really known as an infectious disease expert or a public health researcher before the pandemic, and Polykretis, a biologist, actually conducted a real scientific study? Maybe even a peer-reviewed study? It looks like they didn’t, though, and instead all they did was write a letter to the editor published in the Scandinavian Journal of Immunology. It doesn’t take much to write a letter to the editor for such a journal. You have to be able to write, which may rule out some kids below

[Getready]

It takes a LOT to get a letter reprinted in a medical journal. Mr. Lee doesn’t know. It takes a lot less to get published in an online magazine designed to report on items sure to get subscriptions.
There do seem to be lots more REPORTING of sudden deaths than previous years. Lots of athletes and now middle aged folks....only the cases that require autopsy will shed light on the issue....the rest get dismissed as an anomaly.
If Mr. Lee was really interested in putting an end to false reporting, he should convince Forbes to finance autopsies on those cases of sudden death.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Uh, yeh!

[cuz1961]

Not not picky at all.

I stand corrected, thank you.

[cuz1961]

honest

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. snikker

Semi worries about “ honest”

Bwa haha ha.

[cuz1961]

No, not picky at all.

I stand corrected, thank you.

( don’t know why ai changed the comma to a t /-)

[MortMan]

Bruce “ad hominem” Lee.

[FreeReign]

The authors of the Lausanne study state, in their paper, that "most" sudden cardiac deaths of young athletes aren't reported to these journals - which were the only ones the authors considered. Goodsciencing.com, on the other hand, cast a very wide net.

The Lausanne study searched a very wide net using the following resources.

"Medline (OVID Web, 1966–2004), PubMed (1966–2004), Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, EBM Reviews – ACP Journal Club, Cinahl (1982–2004), Heracles, Web of Science, Scopus (1960–2004)."

Some of those are databases and databases of databases. Seems like a pretty thorough search to me.

You're going to tell me that a search of all of those scientific references and databases is going to find less real cases of heart related SCD than what was compiled in the article in question??

[semimojo]

You're going to tell me that a search of all of those scientific references and databases is going to find less real cases of heart related SCD than what was compiled in the article in question??

Yes, because those are databases of scientific journals, not news reports. A very small percentage of deaths that get reported on social media or in some local news source are written up in scientific journals.

Why can't you take the study's authors word for it?

"The most important limitation however is that SCD in young athletes as reported in the published and studied papers is certainly underestimated. Most of the events occur in youth potentially involved in sports activities, which are not reported in the literature. SCD is therefore likely to have comprised more than the 1101 athletes in the 38-year period across the world, which we reported"

That's why the study didn't attempt to quantify the overall number of these deaths.

Now, how about the fact that the study only looked at certain cardiac events while the goodsciencing.com list seemingly includes death from any cause?

[SaraJohnson]

Wonder what Lee’s “credentials” are to be qualified to review claims made about athletes deaths. He sounds like the CCP. He offers no information to prove Carlson wrong - only smears. The comrade does not like politically incorrect blogs, which is understandable.

[spintreebob]

Over half the State Medicaid is run by Republican Governors.
The big problem is poorly thought out queries. Poor questions by both the media, political hacks those with a bias to support their agenda.

This is more a problem of the left than right as the left seeks what is happening in the bureaucracy far more than the right.

Understand the people and systems run by bureaucrats make mistakes. Bureaucrats do not want to be embarrassed by their mistakes coming to view. The trick is to get the information wanted without the bureaucrat being threatened.

What is the goal? To embarass a bureaucrat or to get the inforation? The bureaucrat that might be embarassed is not the one calling the shots.