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The Post & Email ^ | 15 Jul 2022 | Joseph DeMaio

Posted on 12/16/2022 4:02:55 PM PST by CDR Kerchner

(Dec. 15, 2022) — What if your humble servant were to reveal something here at The P&E which could, once and for all, put an end to “natural born Citizen” (“nbC”) debate raging in the comments sections of numerous posts here? What if recently-discovered “hard” evidence – in the form of a letter from John Jay to David Brearley, Chairman of the “Committee on Postponed Matters” at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 – was produced? And what if that letter confirmed the intent of the Founders to rely on § 212 of Emmerich de Vattel’s treatise The Law of Nations for its definition of an nbC, requiring birth in the nation to parents who were already U.S. Citizens? Would that change any of the minds of those who believe that the only criterion for an nbC is to be born here as a “citizen at birth” or a “citizen by birth?” Curious? Read on. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: citizenship; constitution; naturalborncitizen; vattel
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To: freepersup
There is common DNA testing database that is watched extremely closely by the CIA for DNA of VIPs. It wouldn't be easy to avoid scrutiny, but maybe you or some lab you know could get away with it.

"What about in a foreign country?" did you say?

81 posted on 12/17/2022 4:56:44 PM PST by rx
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To: rx

Submit the dna and use a false name and just SEE what matches, IF... the companies participate. Gotta’ beat these spooks at their own game.

High five!


82 posted on 12/17/2022 5:02:23 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: TexasGator
"I gave you a direct quote from the Act."

Reading Comprehension 101... Try it.

83 posted on 12/17/2022 5:12:34 PM PST by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: rx

And he’s still at work...


84 posted on 12/17/2022 5:19:09 PM PST by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: freepersup; Candor7
I'll be brief. The little boy on the left is the son of an african-american radical and a Lebanese/Egyptian actress. The little boy on the right is the son of the Kenyan student Barack Hussein Obama and a student from Equatorial Guinea he met at the university in Honolulu. The younger, lighter skinned child is the person you know as the ex-president. The somewhat older, darker child, is a now an embassy official based in Washington DC. Everything else is BS.
85 posted on 12/17/2022 10:47:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: freepersup; Candor7

POLARIK’S SING-A-LONG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8&list=PLwDnebP1khQxZPHIMbQB1ZMDCCPoy8T9f&index=4


86 posted on 12/17/2022 11:19:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: CDR Kerchner
Another excellent piece of writing by Mr. Joseph DeMaio designed to make one critically think about a key, but falsified, political narrative of the progressive (nothng progressive about these bozos they are just (low rent liberals) agenda to undermine and abrogate parts of the U.S. Constitution, that has been foisted on the American public by the progressive9liberal) far left over the last 20-30 years. And, as a result of that, with the defacto putting of a constitutionally ineligible anti-American "Dreams From My Father" Barack Hussein Obama II into the Oval Office, has put the USA onto an ever accelerating path of destruction of our Constitutional Republic.

(he was always a CIA plant as were many other potus')

And said Obama is still doing his evil works behind the scene pulling the strings as a master "Saul Alinsky style" community organizer serving a defacto 3rd term in the Oval Office via his front man, Joe Biden.

(the key is not to give him a fourth term by putting in Michael err... Michelle in office)

87 posted on 12/18/2022 2:55:46 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: rx
Great post,as for fuddy she was supposedly killed,the only one on the plane that did not make the terrible journey of a few yards to safety once the plane was shut down within yards od shore so everyone but fuddy could basically WALK to shore.
Fuddy instead was given a frog suit,scuba gear and swam to a waiting sub courtesy of zero and no telling where she is these days.
Its a crazy story I covered years ago with a freeper doing exceleent work in a 300 page book. and online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v636AlaVmE

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread999641/pg19
interesting posts above as well.
We may never know what they did with Fuddy,but is it likely ozero would have had her killed,not likely.

88 posted on 12/18/2022 5:49:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: rodguy911; freepersup; Cats Pajamas
We do have to wonder what news of a 1961 event could have dropped into Michael Rockefeller's life so as to make him want to disappear.

There would be a future little Barry, who strangely would claim to the kids on the playground that he was going to be a king or a president. That was strangely reminiscent of a Arkansasan bastard son of Virginia claiming to be greatness because his daddy was a Rockefeller.

As is the wont of our bloodline family betters, they often drop out of one identity and into another persona to be acted out:


89 posted on 12/18/2022 6:40:28 AM PST by rx
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To: rx
Do you think the child of a nobody gets to be seated at the Queen's right and left hand?


90 posted on 12/18/2022 6:51:11 AM PST by rx
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To: rodguy911; Lurkinanloomin
Do you suppose their DNA, when compared, will elucidate facts better than a CIA-forged document filled with election fraud, whose original was composed on a computer and not on paper?
91 posted on 12/18/2022 7:09:00 AM PST by rx
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To: rx

No question dna is difficult to lie about.


92 posted on 12/18/2022 9:25:29 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: rodguy911; smileyface

We’re not the only bright boys in the US population, are we?

Why do you suppose using DNA tests to sort out these lies has never been part of the media narrative? Lies, propaganda, coercion, pressure, money, career advancement, and threats are the parts of my answer. As with Democrats, their sights and go-to behavior involves getting funding to do studies on how to “battle problems,” not actually finding answers and implementing activities to fix those problems.

Why are we left with nothing to show for the millions of dollars spent on lawsuits arguing about NBC subject to legal and judicial gotchas, reading and seeing paper-thin theories on spotty examples of compared imagery, which as one-offs can never be fully dispositive or conclusive, sporadic reports of a birthplace, easily falsified documents, etc. when we’re led by the nose by the constantly-lying CIA (Bauer and Barry at the WH on 4/27/2011) to think the LFBC prepared for Barry is the definitive answer?

Of course, almost nowhere else is a spotlight shone on the CIA’s involvement, just as with the JFK assassination, the Russia hoax, election fraud (as with the Fuddy Hoax), Obama’s wiretapping of Trump, etc., etc.

Through the CIA’s decades of mind control experimentation (MK-ULTRA, MK-NAOMI, etc., remote viewing, astral projection, satanic magic, their ability to create mass formation psychosis through concerted propaganda, they’ve been quite effective.


93 posted on 12/18/2022 9:59:13 AM PST by rx
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To: x; rx

Here is a transcript of the Bishop McRea phone call.

https://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf

The Obama/Keyes exchange never took place. Transcripts of all of the debates between Obama and Keyes are available on Keyes’ website archives.

http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcripts.php?p=2


94 posted on 12/18/2022 11:32:01 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: rx

when we get real power CIA will be an excellent starting point for the bottom of the swamp clean up.


95 posted on 12/18/2022 12:19:41 PM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Iwould think the understanding of Philadelphia/Pennsylvania would be the most definitive because *THAT* is where the convention was held, and *THAT* was the US Capitol at the time. The states talked to each other. It is completely reasonable to believe that what Philadelphia Pennsylvania thought was the meaning was also what other states thought was the meaning.

I don't agree. There was no internet, or any national newspapers to spread that kind of word from state to state. And if there were, there should have been a record of it somewhere, and yet we've never seen it.

The one commonality when it came to understanding legal terms across all the colonies was the prevalence of the English common law system. That was The legal system that was the foundation of law in every single colony, and something with which voters and representatives in every colony would have been familiar.

Therefore, the meaning of any legal terms under the English common law system would have been far more likely to be reflective of common understanding than where idiosyncratic definitions used by some particular people within a particular colony.

96 posted on 12/18/2022 12:30:32 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: 4Zoltan
If you wish to waste people's time here perpetuating the myth that there's Obama blood in Barry, please show the comparison of his and Malik's DNA results, please. That can make short work of where the actual truth lies.

It's presumptuous and logically false to imply the Keyes/Obama backstage exchange didn't take place because a transcription thereof is not included in Keyes' archives.

I heard of the exchange from an acquaintance who was at the debate. When I asked Alan about it (years later), he clearly did not want to talk about it, but he certainly did not deny (to me, a "friendly") that the essence of that conversation took place. I'm convinced the whole Kenyan connection was a planted, three-letter-agency meme that simply outlived its usefulness.

I hate seeing people that (I perceive to) have been pressured or threatened.

Surely your sock puppets over at thefogbow.com covet your time and attention more than we do!

97 posted on 12/18/2022 12:54:01 PM PST by rx
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To: rx; rodguy911

I’m a chick. But sometimes kinda bright. I have been ragging about the pcr testing since summer of 2020 on the Q thread.

Hubby, equally as schooled as me, just stated he got the recent flu vax (albeit not the bivalent covid one). Arrrgh!

People need to be shaken from their zone. Even if they are “awake” and per JOS we are at 80+%, they still have not aligned their head knowledge to their life activities.


98 posted on 12/18/2022 12:57:47 PM PST by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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To: smileyface

Sorry, didn’t mean to imply anything but.

I started responding/writing just to rodguy911 (with a mouse click), but then I thought you’d maybe engage with some of the things I said, so I added your handle up top.

My deepest apologies, but rest assured, I’m fully aware chicks can be every bit as capable and knowledgeable as guys!


99 posted on 12/18/2022 1:02:31 PM PST by rx
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To: DiogenesLamp

Wasn’t New York City the Capitol in 1787? Congress met there and Washington was inaugurated there in 1789.


100 posted on 12/18/2022 3:06:36 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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