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Airlines are lobbying for a change to federal regulations that could put one pilot in the cockpit
CBS News ^ | 12/08/2022 | PETER GREENBERG

Posted on 12/11/2022 10:22:14 AM PST by DFG

In the airline business, there are two cost factors the airlines can never control: fuel and labor. And as technology improves — and pilot salaries increase — there's been a controversial move lately by the industry to try to amend what's known as part 121 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. That's the federal air regulation that requires air carriers to have two pilots in the cockpit at all times.

The airlines have been quietly lobbying that the single-pilot approach would quickly solve the staffing problem caused by the pilot shortage and that technology has vastly improved to allow for safe operation of a single-pilot flight.

There's language in a new bill now introduced in Congress — the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization bill — asking the Federal Aviation Administration to reconsider part 121 and to allow the use of a single pilot operation, first in cargo aircraft.

Not surprisingly, airline pilots are loudly protesting this idea, claiming that it would diminish a safety discipline and culture that has been responsible for the safest 25 years in commercial aviation in the history of aviation. Pilots unions argue it's all about the airlines saving money and could compromise safety.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airline; aviation; copilot; part121; pilot; recipefordisaster
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To: moovova

Don’t call me Shirley.


41 posted on 12/11/2022 11:30:06 AM PST by Exit148
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To: DFG

If they can land the plane on auto pilot then I got no problem. But if they can’t there had better be another pilot on board. Cockpits are far to complicated for a normal person to be talked down.


42 posted on 12/11/2022 11:36:46 AM PST by poinq
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To: DFG

how well did having one cop to a car go ?...


43 posted on 12/11/2022 11:40:56 AM PST by stylin19a ("Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl")
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To: Othniel77

You’re not supposed to land, you’re supposed to die.


44 posted on 12/11/2022 11:50:21 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Fido969

“Is there anyone on board that can fly a plane?”

Would that even matter? If the pilot falls out of consciousness for whatever reason, isn’t he/she behind a locked and fortified door?


45 posted on 12/11/2022 11:54:56 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: DFG

I don’t know what everyone is worried about. The WEDF (’D’ for ‘Destruction’) is going to reduce the need for 2/3 of all commercial aircraft, because they are going to greatly reduce the number of useless eaters.

And of the other third, travel will be severely reduced to save the planet. So there will be plenty of pilots glad to fly so they can eat and have a 200 sq ft home.


46 posted on 12/11/2022 12:02:07 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: blackdog
" It gets extremely busy at critical phases of flight."


47 posted on 12/11/2022 12:07:50 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Roadrunner383
In the future there will just be a pilot and a dog in the cockpit. The dog’s job will be to bite the pilot if he touches anything.

Ultimately, the airlines want one pilot and no flight attendants. Labor is expensive, dogs are cheap. Dogs will work only for food.

48 posted on 12/11/2022 12:09:52 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Irenic

I’m with you. Zero appeal.


49 posted on 12/11/2022 12:11:36 PM PST by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: DFG

I don’t like flying now, if this gets approved I won’t be flying at all.


50 posted on 12/11/2022 12:12:02 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Drew68
Passenger liners could operate entirely unmanned except the flying public is not ready at this time to accept pilotless airplanes.

Sully Sullenberger is available for consultation.



51 posted on 12/11/2022 12:31:03 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Of course they know what this will do. They want more plane crashes and dead people.”

Greed from every side squeezes for MORE. No matter what.


52 posted on 12/11/2022 12:35:11 PM PST by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: Fido969

Passengers who are seated at emergency doors are asked by the stewardess if they are willing and able to operate those door in an emergency.

They could just add on the part where they may also have to land the plane.


53 posted on 12/11/2022 12:36:13 PM PST by Cold Heart ("Miracle Grow for tumors")
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To: DFG

I would think the cost of two versus one pilot would be insignificant compared to the cost of the plane(amortized), fuel, AC maintenance, ground/baggage crew, cabin crew, and a flight’s share of a terminal.


54 posted on 12/11/2022 12:42:41 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: jimwatx
"don’t like flying now, if this gets approved I won’t be flying at all."

I think you just figured it out. That's the goal.

55 posted on 12/11/2022 12:43:31 PM PST by blackdog (The head, hands, and heart, serve even further than the purse. )
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To: libh8er

After that.. one engine and one pilot.
= = =

And, then ...

no engine and one pilot or

one engine and no pilot?


56 posted on 12/11/2022 12:44:53 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: DFG

Yes what better time than now while pilots are dropping like flies mid air. 🙄


57 posted on 12/11/2022 12:50:41 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Othniel77

The senior attendant.


58 posted on 12/11/2022 1:07:34 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: DFG

Don’t care, don’t fly.


59 posted on 12/11/2022 1:34:19 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Fido969
Ted Striker has a drinking problem...


60 posted on 12/11/2022 1:37:14 PM PST by EEGator
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