Posted on 12/01/2022 11:09:11 AM PST by Brookhaven
During my "dating career" as a man living in North America I couldn't help noticing that women often have unrealistic expectations. They see themselves being passed around by those high quality men they feel entitled for, failing to realize those few men are in high demand. Time passes, options shrink, their standards don't change and they wonder why they are still single.
The stats can prove there're not enough high quality men for every girl out there.
The Female Delusion Calculator is a tool that can help women discern what is realistic from what is highly unlikely.
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Men don't operate that way. While a man may desire perfection, he will take the best he can get, rather than be alone.
Meanwhile, most women would rather be alone than be with a man she regards as being below her standards.
Convince me I'm wrong.
Women don't want to hear this, but most of them reach their peak desirability between 18 and 25. If they haven't gotten a Prince Charming to propose by 25, it's because Prince Charming has better options than to settle for her.
Meanwhile, every year she delays past 25 results in a fresh crop of younger women competing with her for the better guys.
No, you are right.
It’s the curse of the Hallmark Movie delusion.
The woman wants the perfect man and wants him to love her regardless of her faults. Which are usually: incredible selfishness, greed, slothfulness and narcissism.
“Among other body attributes!”
a slider bar for “size” with lower and upper limits for the acceptable range, perhaps?
Mean have a prototype they’ll compromise on.
Women have a floor they won’t go below.
Plenty of men who dream of D-cups are happily married to B-cups.
Tell a woman who has $100k plus income on her list you make $40k and you go immediately into the not-marriage-material zone.
Do you know why God created Adam before Eve?
God did not need a woman standing there telling Him how to make Adam.
My position is that a wife who has lost interest in keeping her husband sexually satisfied, has forfeited any right to his fidelity.
I find her in bed next to me every night.
Makes sense. A woman who wants to cheat can easily find a man to cheat with. She's not going to demand commitment, just discretion.
My mother told me this when I was 10 years old and it was true then and now.
The question was originally posed by a recently widowed man ...
Personally, I believe it should start at 5.
That may be true also, but still she will stay if cheating, he will stay if cheating, but if she catches him cheating she is more likely to file for divorce than if he catches her cheating. And it might also be more likely that women get caught less for various reasons.
Expectations and stepping stones never have the same scale.
Play lottery odds much better and cheaper
And usually it’s about a woman’s obligation towards her husband. Nobody ever mentions men who aren’t interested in sex.
I’ve had people who do marriage counseling tell me that happens and it’s more common than you’d think. I was kind of shocked considering how men are portrayed as such testosterone driven creatures.
Tell a $75k managerial woman you make $100k, but you're a plumber, and you go immediately into the not-marriage-material zone
I definitely agree with you on this. I for one like a woman with a little meat on her bones. The Ashley Graham type. Most guys have been programmed to consider a woman her size to be obese. You see it all the time on here. Any woman who is not model svelte gets blasted as being a fatty.
I’m a big guy and like a woman who matches that. Not 400 lbs. big, but a cute 5’8”-5’10” and 175-200, with curves. I’m good with that. I’m presently dating someone like that. She’s a little heavier, but very pretty. She’s working on the inches and making great progress. She’s also one of the sweetest, most loving people you’ll ever meeting. That counts for something too.
Many times on this forum I have posted the following (clean version):
Gentlemen: Only ever “do it” with your wife.
Ladies: Only ever “do it” with your husband.
It seems, for this thread, I have to offer this, as well:
Gentlemen: Be the sort of man that your wife would want to “do it” with.
Ladies: Be the sort of woman that your husband would want to “do it” with.
Desirability is a necessary adjunct to fidelity.
From personal experience, a churchgoing girl is just as likely or more than a non-churchgoer to be a sexual degenerate.
Women in the western world today tend to make themselves unmarriageable by sleeping around during their prime years. They question why they can't find a man that meets their standards because they are pretty, they enjoy sex, and have DD's. They're popular when they go to the bars but can't understand why a top notch guy won't commit to them. What they don't understand is that it isn't in a man's best interest to commit to a woman who has had multiple partners in the past. Biology tells the male that a female who has slept around in the past is unlikely to be a faithful partner after she's married, which increases the likelihood that a child won't be biologically his and the chances that he'll end up in divorce court fighting for his assets.
Women for the most part don't care how many other women a man has slept with, they actually see it as desirable if a man they're with has a lot of past partners, it proves she's caught a man other women want. They mistakenly think that it works the other way, that a man shouldn't care how many other men she's been with either because she doesn't care about it with him. Any woman can get sex just by making herself available however, high numbers don't prove she's desirable, just that she has low morals. That's not desirable to a man, a man biologically wants a woman who will be loyal so as to lessen the chance that a child born to them has been fathered by another man. Women with high past partner numbers are intuitively going to be less likely to be loyal, which is why men will dally with them but are hesitant to marry them. Women don't seem to understand that their past actually DOES matter, they think they can just stop being the town bicycle one day and all is forgotten. It doesn't work that way.
Yes they do really count and it comes from nurturing and upbringing.
I tell everybody that I married my trophy wife at the age of 20 and it was the first marriage for both of us. That was 48 years ago. She was a little high maintenance along the way even though I'm not rich. For example she had to have the full line of Clinique cosmetics like they sell at Nordstrom and Macy's. The odds of making a good match were better back in the day.
My wife was a class behind me but I remembered her face on the playground in elementary school, one of about four cute and popular girls back then. Both of our families had moved away from the community where had been in school but moved back there after we graduated from high school in different cities. She grew up to be breathtakingly beautiful and by the most fortuitous of circumstances we found ourselves together years later on a blind date and the rest was history. That blind date was on May 3rd and we were married on June 28th. It helped that our parents had been acquainted with each other from years before.
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