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Trump or Desantis? My Thoughts
Rumble ^ | November 12, 2022 | Styx

Posted on 11/12/2022 12:35:21 PM PST by conservative98

Now it's time to address the elephant in the room that is the rising "tension" between Ron Desantis and Donald Trump. Really it is more tension that is being astroturfed by the GOP establishment and by Democrats. The legacy media is all on board with this. They love it because it allows them to work out their TDS frustration while stirring up chaos in the Republican party..

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KEYWORDS: desantis; gope; trump; uniparty
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To: Drew68

“Trump has demonstrated now three times in a row that he can no longer win elections.”

I think his win rate for this year, for his endorsed candidates, was something over 90%. That’s pretty good, if true.


61 posted on 11/12/2022 1:09:38 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: nesnah; Tom in Seattle
Oh, and welcome to FreeRepublic, troll. Join date of 10/30/2022.

Nobody cares about join dates.

For one, 99% of new accounts are re-treads who have been posting here for years under different names. FR isn't really attracting new blood.

For another, just because someone signed up last week doesn't mean they were born last week.

Welcome, Tom.

62 posted on 11/12/2022 1:10:26 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Tom in Seattle
DeSantis can tell you why he’s right — and why you’re wrong. DeSantis spends a lot of time researching policy. For example, during COVID, he was actively reading broad, scientific research papers. He understood the science. He ignored the groupthink, and stuck to factual research. It served him and his state well. Florida emerged as a leader from the pandemic, and it’s largely due to DeSantis’s leadership.

I would urge anyone who believes this to please go back to March and April 2020 and read the executive orders DeSantis signed as governor of Florida.

Some of them read like something I would expect from Andrew Cuomo, Justine Trudeau, or that dingbat in Australia ... like the one where he imposed a mandatory 14-day quarantine period for many out-of-state travelers arriving in Florida, complete with National Guard troops at the airports to enforce it.

The guy even had the nerve to claim that this was justified because air travelers from New York shouldn't be allowed to fly to Florida if air travelers from China or Milan weren't. Anyone who doesn't know the difference between a U.S. citizen on a domestic flight and someone flying to the U.S. from a foreign country is either an 'effing moron or a globalist @sshole. In any case, someone who conducts himself this way should be disqualified from holding any public office.

63 posted on 11/12/2022 1:10:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Lod881019

The repub presidential primary is already going on behind the scenes with money flowing to DeSantis and his and Youngkin’s name being talked about by people like Paul Ryan, Luntz etc. Trump knows all of this so he’s kicking into primary mode. It’s nothing personal. It’s just the way Trump campaigns. Remember the 2016 primary?


64 posted on 11/12/2022 1:11:00 PM PST by Pollard (Worm & GMO Free - some call us purebloods)
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To: Tom in Seattle

Your two-cents are, at least the first four points I read, mostly spot-on. Maybe you need to give Trump more credit in International Policy, though, he put China in its place pretty well.

However, the choice “Trump or DeSantis” is a false one. The answer is NEITHER. Not one more Republican president will ever be elected, and very seldom will we win a House or Senate race, much less capture either chamber.

Democrat cheating has become industrialized.


65 posted on 11/12/2022 1:11:21 PM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Drew68

Because 93% of Trump endorsed candidates is “losing.”


66 posted on 11/12/2022 1:11:28 PM PST by conservative98
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To: robowombat
The result would be the collapse of the GOP ...

That would be the whole point. It would be a well-deserved collapse.

67 posted on 11/12/2022 1:11:33 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: MayflowerMadam
I think his win rate for this year, for his endorsed candidates, was something over 90%. That’s pretty good, if true.

Uh huh. And those 90% would've won without his endorsement.

It's his handpicked losers that cost us the Senate and several statehouses.

68 posted on 11/12/2022 1:11:53 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well then he is an enemy of America, and should sl8nk off.


69 posted on 11/12/2022 1:12:05 PM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: conservative98
Thx for that comment. As much as I wish he had used a different medium for communicating his message, I'll sleep better tonight knowing Trump has good reasons for his comments about Youngkin and DeSantis.

That said, I still wish Trump would stop expecting people to be grateful to him for jobs well done. It makes him look weak (unless perhaps you have a backstory on that as well).

71 posted on 11/12/2022 1:12:53 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: conservative98

https://twitter.com/laralogan/status/1591077988330000384


72 posted on 11/12/2022 1:13:47 PM PST by bobcat62
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To: conservative98
Because 93% of Trump endorsed candidates is “losing.”

Do you think Marco Rubio or Kevin McCarthy needed Trump's endorsement to get elected?

He's trying to take credit for the victories of candidates that faced zero challenge while his handpicked losers cost us the Senate and several statehouses.

Good luck getting election laws fixed in Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Arizona anytime soon.

73 posted on 11/12/2022 1:14:57 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Lazamataz
Democrat cheating has become industrialized.

The GOPe guarantees it, when the candidate is not to their liking. It's all an illusion. George Carlin was right...

“Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right.”

74 posted on 11/12/2022 1:15:50 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rxsid
DeSantis couldn't because he'd have to be concerned about poll numbers and getting reelected.

That and all the favors he'd owe to swampy people


75 posted on 11/12/2022 1:17:12 PM PST by Pollard (Worm & GMO Free - some call us purebloods)
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To: Alberta's Child

In many cases the VP nominee is distasteful to all voters and is merely an insurance policy for the President. The POTUS is untouchable when the would be successor is a rotten SOB.

Examples: Pence, Harris, Gore etc.


76 posted on 11/12/2022 1:17:53 PM PST by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The difficulty is there is no real cadre of former gopers waiting to snap up the chance. Most non dems are just bland, non combative, soft people. If the political culture is to change it will probably be as a result of pushing a minority of the non dems to direct action over something like attempts at civilian disarmament. Many of the resistence will not be goood people , they will be people who can shoot and will do so.


77 posted on 11/12/2022 1:18:32 PM PST by robowombat
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To: conservative98

Interesting:

“Whether you like or don’t like President Trump, he fundamentally changed the way that diplomacy is conducted at the presidential level. He cut out a lot of the process. He would pick up the phone all the time and call a foreign leader and just riff with them the way you “What are you doing? What’s going on? What can we work on together? What can I do for you? And, more importantly, what are you going to do for us?” It really upset the bureaucracy because they didn’t have a role in that — “The president called who? Said what? Why weren’t we involved? Why didn’t we do a briefing on that?” He broke all of the norms, and now I think you’re going to see presidents on both sides of the aisle taking a page from that playbook.”

https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/ex-eu-ambassador-on-why-trump-made-career-diplomats-really-mad/


78 posted on 11/12/2022 1:18:51 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Alberta's Child

It’s possible. But impossible for Trump to win if the GOP runs a plausible conservative like DeSantis and Youngkin. We may think they are RINOs but much of the electorate does not. Trump’s brilliance was putting together a wide coalition in 2016. I don’t see that happening again, unfortunately.


79 posted on 11/12/2022 1:19:06 PM PST by lodi90
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To: BatGuano
The POTUS is untouchable when the would be successor is a rotten SOB.

Examples: Pence, Harris, Gore etc.

So we learned from the Romans after all.

80 posted on 11/12/2022 1:19:14 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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