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We thought the dubious roughing the passer penalty on Tom Brady was the worst call of the week. We were wrong.
SBNATION ^ | Oct 10, 2022 | Mark Schofield

Posted on 10/11/2022 12:27:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The Chris Jones sack of Derek Carr takes the lead

As football fans, thought nothing could top the roughing the passer penalty called on Grady Jarrett during his fourth-quarter sack of Tom Brady during Sunday’s game between the Atlanta Falcons and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

We were wrong.

During Monday night’s game between the Las Vegas Raiders and the Kansas City Chiefs, defensive tackle Chris Jones accomplished something that in over three decades of watching football I did not think was possible.

Commit a roughing the passer penalty while holding the football:

Jones breaks around the edge and tracks Derek Carr down from behind, ripping the football out of his hands and crashing to the turf with the quarterback.

Instead of the Chiefs taking over possession, with a chance to cut into Las Vegas’ 17-7 lead, the Raiders’ drive continued. Las Vegas finished the drive with a field goal, extending their lead to 20-7.

As was the case with the Brady sack on Sunday, the reaction on social media was quick, and filled with shock.

As with the penalty called on Jarrett in his takedown of Brady, the officials likely looked at a portion of the roughing the passer rules when throwing the flag on this play. According to the rules, the following conduct is considered a penalty:

When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight.

While Jones’ play here might technically qualify as a penalty, it is hard to believe that what he does here in the strip-sack of Carr is consistent with the spirit and purpose of the rules. He is making a football play, ripping the ball out of the quarterback’s hands, and then crashing to the turf in the process, along with Carr.

Asking a defender in Jones’ position to do something different seems like an impossible ask.

After the game on Sunday, Jerome Boger pointed to this portion of the rulebook as the reason for the flag on Jarrett:

We can only anticipate a similar statement following tonight’s game


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: football; nfl; referees
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To: Major Matt Mason

I am not a Chiefs fan, but these calls are terrible.


21 posted on 10/11/2022 1:19:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Like studio wresting NFL is studio football. Some people think it is real.


22 posted on 10/11/2022 1:33:33 PM PDT by IC Ken (If the government can just print Money what do I have to pay taxes?)
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To: Red Badger
...they are not allowed to fall on TOP of the QB any more

Whatever. It was also a fumble.

Chiefs ball!

23 posted on 10/11/2022 2:10:43 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: nickcarraway

I saw it and thought it was jive. Same with the Brady tackle. But the worst ruffing call of the week was this one:

https://nesn.com/2022/10/patriots-mack-wilson-flagged-insanely-soft-roughing-passer-penalty/

Even that didn’t help Detroit who were shut out, going 0-6 (new record) on fourth down!


24 posted on 10/11/2022 2:23:57 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: EEGator

Joe “turkey” Jones and Terry Bradshaw....


25 posted on 10/11/2022 2:25:14 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

That was roughing the passer in the 70’s even.


26 posted on 10/11/2022 2:28:11 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
Part of the reason Brady, and other qb’s have a long lifespan these days is because how safe and over protective of that position has become. Teams spend millions on such players, and have added protections on them. It's hard to be on defense these days with the amount of added help to the offense.
27 posted on 10/11/2022 2:53:44 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: EEGator

Jack Lambert was right, “Quarterbacks should wear dresses”.


28 posted on 10/11/2022 2:54:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger
The commentators on another sports show said they are not allowed to fall on TOP of the QB any more............

They don't call them the "Packers" for nothing.

29 posted on 10/11/2022 2:56:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Theoria

Tua Tagovailoa could of used some of that protecting...


30 posted on 10/11/2022 3:01:43 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: dfwgator

That dude was a maniac.


31 posted on 10/11/2022 3:02:07 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: teeman8r

Flag football.. anyone?


32 posted on 10/11/2022 3:23:54 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Red Badger

it’s tackle football


33 posted on 10/11/2022 3:30:40 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer ("Stone is heavy and sand a burdern, but the provocations of a fool are heavier than both" PRO 27:3)
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To: nickcarraway

I saw brady get thrown to the ground and draw a flag.
I saw Pittsburg QB Pickett slide in and then he was hammered.

No flag.
It depends on the Refs


34 posted on 10/11/2022 4:35:26 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: South Dakota
I saw Pittsburg QB Pickett slide in and then he was hammered.

Well at least Pickett did slide that time.

35 posted on 10/11/2022 4:36:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

Both those calls were massive overreactions to the Tua situation. Just terrible, terrible refball this weekend.

}:-)4


36 posted on 10/11/2022 4:36:36 PM PDT by Moose4 (Oderint dum metuant. Let them hate, as long as they fear.)
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To: SheepWhisperer

The NFL is trying to get Flag Football added to the Olympics......................


37 posted on 10/12/2022 5:32:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The “L” is silent?


38 posted on 10/12/2022 8:01:35 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer ("Stone is heavy and sand a burdern, but the provocations of a fool are heavier than both" PRO 27:3)
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