Posted on 09/22/2022 1:20:17 PM PDT by Red Badger
sooo, they make their super reliable cars wicked ugly to boost sales?
i thought so..
No, people not hung up on archaic style buy their cars because they very high quality.
Your data is a little stale
Battery life has a warrantee of 8 years
https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty
Companies like ABTC, (American Battery Technology Co), Redwood, And others are being built today to recover the materials used in the batteries. Lithium is now $70k/metric ton, Nickle is $25k, Cobalt is over $80k. You seriously believe they are going to a dump?
The bodies are usually Aluminum, so that’s recovered. Plus there is copper that is valuable.
Don’t want an EV? It’s your money, your choice. They aren’t for everyone, but they are getting better and better
Can you discuss the claim that it takes FIVE times the energy to build an EV? Or that the average cost of an EV is 60k plus vs 30k for a fossil fueled vehicles? And after eight years where do we deposit the barge loads of spent batteries?
Given the alloys involved in the ICE (molybdenum in rear transfer), the Cobalt and Iridium, Arsenic in the semiconductors, titanium in the rings, multiple fluids (cooling, automatic transmission, power steering, brakes, fuel) etc. I question the 5x claim of energy requirements.
Battery chemistries are changing - with CATL coming out with a newer battery type boasting 600 mile range and 200 mile charge in 5 minutes for 2023. We also have a lithium Sulfate chemistry that looks promising. I have a part time job working in battery chemistries. That is how I made my first million; and I expect to earn quite a bit more in this investment
That said, I currently drive a 2003 Tacoma and a 2011 Lexus. Both iCE, but I am planning on getting new EVs shortly. My daily commute is 65 miles each way; so the economics of EV (FOR ME), make sense.
Are they the right solution for everyone? Nope. But when the first Ford came out: they only took a decade or two to displace the horse and carriage. We have see more progress in the last decade on battery technology than we have seen in the last century. Toyota, for example has made remarkable progress on the solid state battery. But at the end of the day - everyone needs Lithium- as it’s the smallest metal atom possible. Which is exactly what you want on a battery
Very informative. Thank you.
My pleasure. In life, we all make decisions with information we have. I work in propulsion for a living, but have a side-job with battery chemistries and energy storage. The NASA job pays my bills, the lithium job is what is going to allow me to retire comfortably. So, that’s what I spend my spare time on.
EV’s are not a suitable replacement for everyone - just as the first automobiles could not replace the horse for decades. We are heading that way, but it will take a few years.
The biggest shakeup I see, is instead of a central, nation-wide power grid that is subject to catastrophic failures (one area goes down - everyone suffers), I see it becoming more modular. Which makes it more robust, more adaptable, and more powerful. That’s what we all want
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