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Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go, study finds
Tech Explore ^ | September 22, 2022 | Provided by Stanford University

Posted on 09/22/2022 12:07:38 PM PDT by Red Badger

If the common charging of electric vehicles at home in the evening or overnight shifts to daytime at work as more cars go electric, then that would restrain extra costs for electricity systems, according to a new Stanford University study. Credit: Amy Adams/Stanford University

The vast majority of electric vehicle owners charge their cars at home in the evening or overnight. We're doing it wrong, according to a new Stanford study.

In March, the research team published a paper on a model they created for charging demand that can be applied to an array of populations and other factors. In the new study, published Sept. 22 in Nature Energy, they applied their model to the whole of the western United States and examined the stress the region's electric grid will come under by 2035 from growing EV ownership. In a little over a decade, they found, rapid EV growth alone could increase peak electricity demand by up to 25 percent, assuming a continued dominance of residential, nighttime charging.

To limit the high costs of all that new capacity for generating and storing electricity, the researchers say, drivers should move to daytime charging at work or public charging stations, which would also reduce greenhouse gas emissions. This finding has policy and investment implications for the region and its utilities, especially since California moved in late August to ban sales of gasoline powered cars and light trucks starting in 2035.

"We encourage policymakers to consider utility rates that encourage day charging and incentivize investment in charging infrastructure to shift drivers from home to work for charging," said the study's co-senior author, Ram Rajagopal, an associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford.

In February, cumulative sales of EVs in California reached 1 million, accounting for about six percent of cars and light trucks. The state has targeted 5 million EVs on the road by 2030. When the penetration hits 30 percent to 40 percent of cars on the road, the grid will experience significant stress without major investments and changes in charging habits, said Rajagopal. Building that infrastructure requires significant lead time and cannot be done overnight.

"We considered the entire western U.S. region, because California depends heavily on electricity imports from the other western states. EV charging plus all other electricity uses have consequences for the whole western region given the interconnected nature of our electric grid," said Siobhan Powell, lead author of the March study and the new one.

"We were able to show that with less home charging and more daytime charging, the Western U.S. would need less generating capacity and storage, and it would not waste as much solar and wind power," said Powell, mechanical engineering Ph.D. '22.

"And, it's not just California and western states. All states may need to rethink electricity pricing structures as their EV charging needs increase and their grid changes," added Powell, who recently took a postdoctoral research position at ETH Zurich.

Once 50 percent of cars on the road are powered by electricity in the western U.S.—of which about half the population lives in California—more than 5.4 gigawatts of energy storage would be needed if charging habits follow their current course. That's the capacity equivalent of 5 large nuclear power reactors. A big shift to charging at work instead of home would reduce the storage needed for EVs to 4.2 gigawatts.

Changing incentives

Current time-of-use rates encourage consumers to switch electricity use to nighttime whenever possible, like running the dishwasher and charging EVs. This rate structure reflects the time before significant solar and wind power supplies, when demand threatened to exceed supply during the day, especially late afternoons in the summer.

Today, California has excess electricity during late mornings and early afternoons, thanks mainly to its solar capacity. If most EVs were to charge during these times, then the cheap power would be used instead of wasted. Alternatively, if most EVs continue to charge at night, then the state will need to build more generators—likely powered by natural gas—or expensive energy storage on a large scale. Electricity going first to a huge battery and then to an EV battery loses power from the extra stop.

At the local level, if a third of homes in a neighborhood have EVs and most of the owners continue to set charging to start at 11 p.m. or whenever electricity rates drop, the local grid could become unstable.

"The findings from this paper have two profound implications: the first is that the price signals are not aligned with what would be best for the grid—and for ratepayers. The second is that it calls for considering investments in a charging infrastructure for where people work," said Ines Azevedo, the new paper's other co-senior author and associate professor of energy science and engineering in the Stanford Doerr School of Sustainability, which opened on Sept. 1.

"We need to move quickly toward decarbonizing the transportation sector, which accounts for the bulk of emissions in California," Azevedo continued. "This work provides insight on how to get there. Let's ensure that we pursue policies and investment strategies that allow us to do so in a way that is sustainable."

Another issue with electricity pricing design is charging commercial and industrial customers big fees based on their peak electricity use. This can disincentivize employers from installing chargers, especially once half or more of their employees have EVs. The research team compared several scenarios of charging infrastructure availability, along with several different residential time-of-use rates and commercial demand charges. Some rate changes made the situation at the grid level worse, while others improved it. Nevertheless, a scenario of having charging infrastructure that encourages more daytime charging and less home charging provided the biggest benefits, the study found.

Explore further

Integrating electric vehicles into the grid could prevent blackouts

More information:

Siobhan Powell, Charging infrastructure access and operation to reduce the grid impacts of deep electric vehicle adoption, Nature Energy (2022). DOI: 10.1038/s41560-022-01105-7. www.nature.com/articles/s41560-022-01105-7

Journal information: Nature Energy


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To: Red Badger

I think this is more of an eventual tax grab. They can’t tax your electric use at home if you have an EV but they can at the pump and at work.


41 posted on 09/22/2022 1:17:11 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: MortMan

“So, charge during peak usage hours and you need less generation resources? Huh?”

No. They are using the California model where solar power is a significant part of the mix and the sun don’t shine at night.


42 posted on 09/22/2022 1:17:13 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: Pilated

Not even a golf cart?


43 posted on 09/22/2022 1:17:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Red Badger
So, I need to buy an electric car to save the planet but I can't charge it when it gets too hot outside and now I can't charge it at night when I'm at home sleeping?

Really makes me want to run out and drop $90k on a new Tesla.

44 posted on 09/22/2022 1:18:38 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: DouglasKC

Perhaps, but in Indiana (and I assume most other states), on a EV, they tax you for what you’re not paying in fuel tax via your yearly registration.


45 posted on 09/22/2022 1:19:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Brian Griffin

“Folks in Cleveland should however retain their gasoline credit card. Their ICE cars will need gasoline.”

Why? Most of Ohio’s electricity comes from coal, nuclear then NG.


46 posted on 09/22/2022 1:20:42 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: DouglasKC

They will tax your tires, which EVs go thru faster than ICE vehicles because of their added weight, and they will tax your TAGS at a higher cost that offsets the gasoline road taxes you won’t be paying..............


47 posted on 09/22/2022 1:22:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: moovova
School bus catches fire


48 posted on 09/22/2022 1:25:08 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: Red Badger
Vermont looks to replace lost gas taxes from those driving electric vehicles

The loonies in Montpelier and Burlington want it both ways.

49 posted on 09/22/2022 1:26:26 PM PDT by Daffynition (*This admin tells us *A* story; but they don't tell us *THE* story* & :) ~ D Bongino)
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To: BenLurkin
I’ll be lucky if they let me on the fricking bus.

If I'm lucky they won't turn me onto compost.

50 posted on 09/22/2022 1:27:33 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Travis McGee

Soda cans takes 3 Oz of gasoline in energy to make.

(just giving some dumb non sequitur type of answer you’ll get from the EV crowd)


51 posted on 09/22/2022 1:28:11 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: MortMan

Solar panels on roofs and parking lots direct to car chargers?

The article mentioned “electrical storage”, i.e. giant battery banks.

You only avoid that by massive solar generation and daytime charging. Or wind power, more wind during the day usually.


52 posted on 09/22/2022 1:28:56 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: TexasGator

School buses don’t take 24,000+ gallons of water and hours to put out.

Your non sequitur answers are retarded.


53 posted on 09/22/2022 1:29:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: chuck allen

LOL!!


54 posted on 09/22/2022 1:31:02 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Red Badger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zaebtU-CA


55 posted on 09/22/2022 1:32:46 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: rlmorel

Chu Chu Willie........he must have passed on.


56 posted on 09/22/2022 1:34:04 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: CodeToad

Another non-sequitur:

Somebody pointed out that even small “innocuous” LiON batteries (like those in loud and long lasting greeting cards) that wind up in landfills can degrade, combust, and start hard to extinguish fires when they ignite methane etc.

Another “unintended consequence” of Lithium batteries might be, how do we get rid of them?

Maybe we can drop them in used-up lithium mines.


57 posted on 09/22/2022 1:34:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Midwesterner53

had to wait a few minutes behind a pickup truck. FWIW, I pulled into the gas station.....and had a wait a few minutes for the guy in front of me to fuel up......@ $3.430/gal......

the amount due on his *fillup* was $3.439.

People are hurting out here on the fruited plain. DC and state legislators remain oblivious to joe six-pack.


58 posted on 09/22/2022 1:34:44 PM PDT by Daffynition (*This admin tells us *A* story; but they don't tell us *THE* story* & :) ~ D Bongino)
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To: moovova

HAHA!@


59 posted on 09/22/2022 1:35:01 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: CodeToad
Plenty of room for old clean green lithium batteries in old clean green lithium mines!


60 posted on 09/22/2022 1:35:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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