‘Moore’s Law’s dead,’ Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang says in justifying gaming-card price hike

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[Zathras]

Correct!
Without EUV AND careful planning of high speed circuits, Moore’s Law died after 14nm.

[Myrddin]

My current project has a small team of AI/ML engineers. I spent an hour with a new team member yesterday determining the team's needs to integrate with the current platform. We're deployed on kubernetes with docker containers orchestrated by helm charts. Most pods are built with Java and Spring Boot. The AI/ML team needs pods running Python as most AI/ML uses Python libraries including package TensorFlow implementations. The TensorFlow needs access to GPU hardware. I have to develop templates to create a generic Python pod and arrange execution on a platform with GPU hardware. Most of the developers (myself included) have laptops with an nVidia board, so we can build/test code that uses the GPU. Deployment in production is the more significant challenge.

[Myrddin]

I started a new contract that is heavy in VMs running on VMware Workstation Pro. Inside, we run Windows Server 2019 or Ubuntu Linux support kubernetes clusters. I moved up from an i7 quad core with 32 GB RAM to an i7-quad core with 64 GB RAM and a pair of 1 TB nVME "disks". The hardware can host 128 GB and a few team members have that to run the whole enchilada.

The i7-2600k with 32 GB RAM that I built for my personal use in Sept 2013 is still running today. I built a new box with an i9-10850K with 64 GB RAM, 2 x 1 TB nVME disk, water cooled with a 360 mm radiator. I don't bother with fancy graphics cards, but I may cave to put an nVidia card in the box for access to a GPU for TensorFlow AI/ML engines.

[Myrddin]

My employer has a hardware management process that replaces enduser hardware on a 3 year cycle. Nominally 1/3 of the devices are replaced each year. That tracks a warranty/maintenance cycle with the suppliers. They are replaced before a catastrophic failure impacts productivity. Another group in the company does "image management" to build corporate standard, security configured images for each authorized enduser device. We use Druva InSync to keep devices backed up and recovery (from a physically damaged device) can be as easy as 1) select replacement 2) apply authorized image 3) ship to employee 4) restore data from Druva InSync. It's not perfect, but works pretty well for a company of nearly 45,000 employees.

[Myrddin]

Quantum computing is pretty much a fairy tale. It takes hours to configure the machine with the data and algorithm to run, then more hours to cool it down to "ready to run" temperature, then more hours to extract the results of the quantum computation. It will never be an end user computing technology. Clif High has access to multiple quantum computing platforms at the vendor premises with hands on experience. Clif shared the details of what really is required to execute a process on a quantum machine.

[Dr. Sivana]

You might be right. The same would have been said when computers were composed largely of tubes and even transistors.

[Myrddin]

I can’t even figure out how to speed up my computer’s download rate.

Last night I was setting up my new Samsung S22Ultra cellphone. I decided to test to network limits. On my wireless network it downloads 131 Mbps uploads 100 Mbps. I turned off the WiFi and tested National 5G. 108 Mbps download/3.91 Mbps upload. Final test is I plugged my USB C to 1 Gbps Ethernet adapter on the phone. Download was 640 Mbps/upload 980 Mbps. I think download is hobbled by the speed of the onboard memory in the phone. The upload performance of 980 Mbps matches my best i7/i9 desktops on the same wired network. The wired network attached to a fiber optic 1 Gbps symmetic connection.

CPU, network interface, disk technology (nVME/SATAIII) have different throughputs. nVME will move 1400 MBps to/from disk. The 6 Gbps link speed of SATAIII hobbles the speed of the SSD that it interfaces. Typically about 600 MBps to/from the SSD. The disk link speed of SATAIII is still 6x faster than my fiber optic network.

[1Old Pro]

my new Samsung S22Ultra cellphone. I decided to test to network limits. On my wireless network it downloads 131 Mbps uploads 100 Mbps. I turned off the WiFi and tested National 5G. 108 Mbps download/3.91 Mbps upload. Final test is I plugged my USB C to 1 Gbps Ethernet adapter on the phone. Download was 640 Mbps/upload 980 Mbps.

How's the voice quality when mobile?

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

I know scale is up against where silicon bleeds and electrons can hop between traces, but there are other promising materials.

The size of individual silicon atoms (around 0.2nm) would be a hard physical limit (with circuits one atom wide), but its behaviour becomes unstable way before that because of electrons going down one wire and showing up on another at scales way above that. Electrons are weird.

Alternative semiconductors such as gallium nitride and silicon carbide cope much better at higher temperature so clock speeds can be pumped.

RISC chips also show promise to at least continue Moore for a while longer.

NVIDEA is close to the bleeding edge of chip fab (4nm) but given current tech and materials I am afraid they may be right. TMSC claims to be very close on a 1nm process and IBM has a 2nm process. These is just an order of magnitude from physical limits for silicon being 0.2nm and spooky behavior will show up way above that size, and implies the Moores law curve kinda like this: (just the shape, ignore the labels)

[qwerty1234]

>>Your company didn’t send you a new laptop because they want to give you a faster computer. They sent you one because disk drives, even solid-state drives, tend to start failing after 3-5 years.

No doubt about that - but the point I was trying to make was that in years past, getting a new laptop was exciting event for me - everything just ran better/faster than before, so it was something to look forward to and enjoy - now I do it only because I have to and its a chore that I need to complete (migrating files etc), with no real benefit to me (except as you point out, the likelihood that it is less likely to fail).

[Hot Tabasco]

Last night I was setting up my new Samsung...

Huh?

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Have you seen the graphics in the "metaverse"? Let's put it this way. I have games from 1998 that have better graphics.

[Outflow]

Heard that the ‘times of smaller semiconductors were done at 20nm’.

The 3d printing and so forth at 1nm will expand a lot more.

[SgtHooper]

JENSEN HUANG! LMAO! No wonder nVidia tried to produce chips in chinkland. My GOD, what are they thinking!! Get that a$$hole outta control!

[The Duke]

"I’d say the biggest problem we have with computers these days is outrageously bloated and buggy code."

I just want my ESC key back!

[Myrddin]

I've only had the phone for two days, so I'm not sure how the mobile voice quality compares to my prior phone. We have good 4g LTE and 5G National coverage from Pocatello to Idaho Falls. The phone goes to WiFi when I'm inside the house. I'll update when I have some more time with it. The audio quality for streaming data is excellent.