Posted on 09/01/2022 2:40:08 AM PDT by ChuckR163
And “discredited” and “tricky”. You use those words all the time to dismiss unwelcome news.
And it’s telling you bring up the Russians. That’s just what Peter Hotez said, linking vaccine disinformation to the Russians.
The question is why you think throwing a bunch of squid ink and lies in the water will work.
Graphene and Graphene oxides are more or less monolayers; they are going to be sharp at the atomic/molecular level. The physics and chemistry is correct.
The question is, is there graphene / graphene oxide in the jabs; is it in the list of proprietary ingredients not requiring reporting; is it uniformly distributed if it is there (recall the lists of side effects showing vastly more side effects for some lots than others; as well as the early trial data on mice where different doses of mRNA / lipid nanoparticles are used in different control groups; as well as known manufacturing issues, including the metal shavings in Japan and the Baltimore manufacturer which got dropped for poor quality control).
They read it on the internet.
Here's your post, troll.
Here are the first 3 or 4 paragraphs.
Seems pretty close to me.
Your initial move is to assume they are false; then to assume they are shady; then to find any possible reason or motive to discredit them in the eyes of others. Which is what a leftist does. Science is not based on consensus, as you posts seem to indicate you think.
I notice, for the nonce, that you aren't nearly as harsh against Pfizer (for failing to do 10-year trials); Moderna (for foisting an untested gene therapy on the public) or anyone who pushed for lockdowns. The most you do is praise them with faint damns.
The “doctors” touting the various conspiracy theories about the vaccines in “articles” posted to FR are almost exclusively grifters, kooks, have an axe to grind or are not real doctors.
These include the likes of twice-convicted felon and former chiropractor “Dr” Robert O Young, retired chiropractor “Dr” Bryan Ardis (who flogs his acne cream and “anti-vaccine” supplements online), Frontline Doctors (at least one of whom is a total kook and they are all raking in the $ off their website), and Dr. Ryan Cole who, in pursuit of “proving” his dodgy claims misdiagnosed cancer in patients and caused at least one woman to get drastic and unnecessary surgery*.
Then there’s the discredited and kooky Dr. Naomi Wolf, whose PhD is in English Lit and has no science background. And “Dr” Jane Ruby, who despite getting herself up in white coat with stethoscope draped around her neck, is not an MD — she has a PhD in psychology and one in education — and is a Nurse Practitioner.
The most respectable of the lot is Dr. Robert Malone, but he has quite the chip on his shoulder, a bit an axe to grind, and overstates his credentials somewhat. At least he had the integrity to put the kabosh on the monkeypox conspiracy theories his fans had started spouting, and I respect him for that. He’s also been vaccinated and boosted himself.
... it must be true.
Many people will believe what they want to believe. It’s human nature. Even dedicated scientists have to examine themselves for confirmation bias in order to avoid it as best they can.
Noack claimed the itty bitty razor blades will kill everyone who got vaccinated. That’s one huge pile of bodies. I guess those who believe him shorted insurance stocks and bought funeral industry stocks. If Noack was right, they’ll get rich. We’ll see, I suppose.
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A very important thing to remember is Noack did not examine any vaccine himself. He is going by the highly questionable (to put it kindly) “Spanish study” and at the time the video was made, apparently believed it was absolutely true.
Spanish study: Ricardo Delgado Martin, an anti-vax activist who runs a blog called
“La Quinta Columna” (Fifth Column), had Dr.Pablo Campra a professor at the University of Almería in Madrid, analyse what was purported to be a vial of vaccine. The vial was of unknown provenance and sent by Martin to Dr. Campra by messenger.
Experts consulted by Spanish fact-checker Maldita.es said here images could show any material.
In his study, Campra Madrid himself acknowledges that the “microscope doesn’t provide conclusive evidence” and that the analysis comes from “a single, limited sample” – one of unknown origin and traceability.
Now, back to Noack and his video. He says “Russian roulette” about the people who keel over right after getting the vaccine, and about athletes whose “blood moves faster through the body”. Later, he says that eventually the razor blades will cut up your blood vessels, heart, brain etc., little by little. At the 8:45 mark he says it “will kill the whole population of the country” when referring to the Austrian mandate.
He mentions several times that it is more dangerous if injected into an artery. Whether he means “only dangerous” is questionable, given other statements.
According to the blurb for the video: “He explains the graphene hydroxide is not biodegradable and will eventually kill all who has taken it.” Then adds: “After this video was released, Dr Noack was attacked and killed.” Which is not true — he died of a heart attack. So the blurb is suspect. This does not appear to be the entire video. Perhaps he clears up the question later in the part cut off?
Steve, I honestly can’t tell whether he means “Russian roulette” as to whether you get it in an artery or not, or whether you keel over sooner rather than later. As he says things that indicate the former, others the latter, I can’t be certain. It seems ambiguous to me. The translation seems fine to me (I speak German), so it’s not that.
Noack video: https://www.bitchute.com
Noack says he is a leading expert in activated carbon (aka activated charcoal). I’ve no doubt he knows lots about graphene, certainly more than I do.
Noack says that Dr. Campra’s images are not of graphene oxide, but graphene hydroxide. Dr. Campra said “look similar to images of graphene oxide” and “inconclusive”, while other experts said “inconclusive - could be anything” (Reuters) and “microscopy is not an adequate method to study the presence of graphene or graphene oxide” (AFP).
Among other arguments, Diasio said that liquids containing graphene or graphene oxide in any significant amount tend to be dark brown or black. If the shots had “even 1% graphene or graphene oxide” (the claim states it has 99.9%), the liquid would look black or at least, dark, Diasio said.”
[From Reuters article, link above]
Finally, we have this from AFP. At the end is a list of experts and quotes from them saying graphene oxide is still in the experimental stage when it comes to vaccines, and no vaccines containing graphene oxide are commercially available:
https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9FM82U-1
Yes, it’s globo-lefty Reuters and AFP leans lefty, but you can check their sources and links.
So, we have Noack going solely by Campra’s images of a liquid from a vial of unknown provenance, sent to him by an activist. Did Martin tamper with the vial? Where did he get it? We don’t know. Is he a trustworthy source? Well... I think Dr. Campra is an honest scientist. Martin, not so much. He’s flogging his blog and videos.
Noack makes the supposition there is graphene hydroxide in the vaccines, which has industrial applications but not used in medicine or in vaccines, based on Campra’s images.
Okay. given all the problems with “the Spanish study” why has no one else in the whole wide world done a proper analysis of vaccine from a vial of known provenance and found graphene of either persuasion?
Why would Pfizer and Moderna put graphene hydroxide in their vaccines? And unless you believe in a vast worldwide conspiracy involving those who secretly procure it (and sell it to them), secretly add it in at various production facilities worldwide, batch checkers, etc., how are they doing it abd getting away with it? All highly illegal, of course, too. All these evil, evil murderous people who want to kill everyone, including children. If someone wants to believe that, then ... that’s his or her prerogative.
Here’s a link to a whole lot of papers showing the effects of graphene oxide in the body. From patriots.win.
https://mega.nz/folder/KsZWia6R#CsUf73L5fXuk8NfBoLk6-g
https://graphene.azurewebsites.net/Graphene-Magazine-2020-2/#page=14
Graphene oxide touches blood: in vivo interactions of bio-coronated 2D materials
V Palmieri 1, G Perini, M De Spirito, M Papi
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PMID: 32254085 DOI: 10.1039/c8nh00318a
Abstract
Graphene oxide is the hot topic in biomedical and pharmaceutical research of the current decade. However, its complex interactions with human blood components complicate the transition from the promising in vitro results to clinical settings. Even though graphene oxide is made with the same atoms as our organs, tissues and cells, its bi-dimensional nature causes unique interactions with blood proteins and biological membranes and can lead to severe effects like thrombogenicity and immune cell activation. In this review, we will describe the journey of graphene oxide after injection into the bloodstream, from the initial interactions with plasma proteins to the formation of the “biomolecular corona”, and biodistribution. We will consider the link between the chemical properties of graphene oxide (and its functionalized/reduced derivatives), protein binding and in vivo response. We will also summarize data on biodistribution and toxicity in view of the current knowledge of the influence of the biomolecular corona on these processes. Our aim is to shed light on the unsolved problems regarding the graphene oxide corona to build the groundwork for the future development of drug delivery technology.
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