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Tested: How Towing Affects the Electric Pickups—Hummer EV, Rivian R1T, and the Ford F-150 Lightning
Car and Driver | August 16, 2022 | DAVE VANDERWERP

Posted on 08/21/2022 2:59:35 PM PDT by absalom01

These new electric pickups are wonderful towing companions, aided by massive horsepower and torque that allow for easy merging with the flow of interstate traffic, and their heavy curb weights (between 6855 pounds for the F-150 and 9640 pounds for the Hummer) lend an impressive stability when lugging a three-ton trailer. But you won't want to be going far, as a full battery will take you a mere 100 miles in the Lightning, 110 miles in the R1T, and 140 miles in the Hummer. Although the Hummer consumes electricity at the highest rate of the three, its considerably larger battery pack more than makes up for the difference.


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KEYWORDS: automotive; ev; rv; towing
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Couple Towed Trailer Behind $80,000 Electric Truck, Had to Stop Every 100 Miles on 2,700-Mile Trip

https://www.westernjournal.com/couple-towed-trailer-behind-80000-electric-truck-stop-every-100-miles-2700-mile-trip/

But don’t worry everyone, someone that goes by TexasGator, will Don be on here to provide stats and specs that none cars about in an attempt to prove that EVs will save the world, cure cancer, House the homeless, seal the border and feed the hungry.

All while people recharge their toy cars with the solar panels on their roofs.

Have the investment portfolios of Al the government fills pushing this bs been looked shy lately?


21 posted on 08/21/2022 3:21:14 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: absalom01

Without a tremendous technological revolution, I can’t see EV’s being anywhere near practical without a universal power source being at-the-ready at power stations…quick change standardized batteries. Or a mini-reactor power source.


22 posted on 08/21/2022 3:22:08 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: frank ballenger

Yeah. They are youtubers with a vehicle channel, and they have been testing out the lighting under various conditions.


23 posted on 08/21/2022 3:22:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jacknhoo

I would hope every substation would have EV charging stations. Substations have direct access to the high voltage lines.


24 posted on 08/21/2022 3:23:54 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Youtube video has guys driving a lightning with a bed camper. Got 80 miles before running out of juice. They were testing for distance.”

I saw that. They competed against the same truck but ICE and lost. Especially wasting time taking on more juice for the battery. And that outside juice charging station costs lots of money.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ford-f-150-lightning-barely-made-it-80-miles-with-a-trailer/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e55Vued028


25 posted on 08/21/2022 3:24:05 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: absalom01

The cost of the tires are $250 a piece and with the battery weight you will be buying more tires. Since only rich people can buy electric boondoggle machines then the cost of new tires is nothing to them.


26 posted on 08/21/2022 3:24:06 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: moovova

I really have no problem with someone who wants an EV, and there’s a case to be made for, say, a Tesla as a daily commuter.

But none of these options are anywhere close to being viable towing options. They wouldn’t even handle a dinky little airstream that a gas engine easily manages. We were considering a larger trailer and rig a while ago, and the obvious upgrade is to a larger Ram 2500 or 3500 class truck. You can still get those new, but there are jurisdictions that are trying to ban the sale of diesel fuel.

I hear the sound of an axe being sharpened with all of these regulations and pressure to move electric.


27 posted on 08/21/2022 3:24:16 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: central_va

That and when he eliminates the ridiculous tax breaks fold are getting.

Zero resin the taxpayers should r belong someone but a car or putting charging stations


28 posted on 08/21/2022 3:26:06 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: absalom01

Sorry guys.

You’ll have to tow your camper or boat behind a municipal bus. Check the schedules far in advance.


29 posted on 08/21/2022 3:27:34 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: dfwgator
The EV transition is a tool to destroy personal transportation for good.

Since Henry Ford the citizens have had too darn much personal freedom and individuality. Time they stood in line waiting for government approved EV public transportation, monitored and approved.

Futurist nonfiction magazine about 10 years ago had an article showing a row of nested together shell like little cab half cars along a curb. "You don't need a car, you need a ride." You would of course be assumed to live in a big city---not one mention of country life. You'd rent and ride this sort of half sized electric Smart Car and bring it back to nest it again.

30 posted on 08/21/2022 3:27:50 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: crusty old prospector

“Maybe they can pull a third trailer that is a battery.”

Or a diesel generator.


31 posted on 08/21/2022 3:29:01 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: absalom01

The only EV I would buy is a Hyundai Kona. Some FReeper lay $35000 on me and I will buy one.

Very good Australian car man reviews the Kona EV>>>
Living with Hyundai Kona Electric EV (& ritual suicide) | Auto Expert John Cadogan
201,689 views Aug 26, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w39ALqowjf0


32 posted on 08/21/2022 3:30:03 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: absalom01

EVs - government flips off the power switch and you go nowhere.

Gasoline - easy to acquire, store, and carry. You go anywhere you choose.

Choose wisely.


33 posted on 08/21/2022 3:33:33 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: crusty old prospector

OK, now that is a wild idea. I might as well spring for an electric Prevost and instead of the toy hauler, just tow a giant battery!


34 posted on 08/21/2022 3:34:09 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

Electric trucks are like having phone sex with a blow up doll. Just ain’t like the real thing.


35 posted on 08/21/2022 3:35:38 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: qaz123

Is anyone on FR thinking EV are a real solution to POV?


36 posted on 08/21/2022 3:35:39 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: absalom01

It’s NOT about torque, nor HP (which is torque at a specific RPM). A tesla induction motor will blow the pistons out of your 5.3L block.

The problem is the amount of stored energy to drive that motor.

Gasoline, even though we throw away 75% of the energy in the tank to heat, still has plenty left over to turn the crankshaft.

You need about 1MW/hr of energy storage in a battery to equal the tow distance of a light pickup with 29 gallons of gas. We are currently not even in the neighborhood for batteries. That’s why Toyota holds the opinion batteries can’t replace gasoline. Only a energy storage medium like Hydrogen can get close. The problem is you don’t “drill for hydrogen”, you have to extract it from oil, and the carbon is shed as CO2, which ticks off the Green Complainers again.

Or you split water with electricity from solar (to be green), and that is just a huge waste of energy.


37 posted on 08/21/2022 3:38:40 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: Mariner

These tests were on the flat. You probably couldn’t make it halfway to Shaver lake with one of these, staring in Fresno.


38 posted on 08/21/2022 3:39:35 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

100mi range = useless in the VAST majority of hauls.


39 posted on 08/21/2022 3:41:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: absalom01

Diesel Electric Locomotives.


40 posted on 08/21/2022 3:42:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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