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There you go again. Parsing words. You are incorrect. As I said an epidemiologist is not a physician.

“ Is an Epidemiologist a Doctor?
An epidemiologist is not required to have a doctor of medicine degree. Some epidemiologists are licensed physicians; however, this isn’t required for most positions. Medical training can be helpful in understanding disease but, depending on the work environment, it may be more beneficial to study public health instead of health science. Public health focuses on preventing disease, while medicine focuses on treating the disease.” CDC

A physician is a clinician who practices at bedside and takes care patients. I will grant you Fauci blurred the line and help him out as a physician, but he is not. He does not practice clinically nor is he licensed. If you want to be technical, a physician is one who swore the oath of Hippocrates and practices medicine. The government idiots Ronnie practice medicine. They are not physician.

Your lack of understanding and nuance are not my lies and goal post moving. And yes you have a fanboi who comes to tour defense whenever you are questioned. And yes you see associated with the q lists. If you do not want to be associate eirh group think and pack mentality then deMonstrate some independent thought.

[grey_whiskers]

Your lack of understanding and nuance are not my lies and goal post moving.

Shove it you worthless troll.

You said up front that Birx and Fauci were government, not doctors.

They're both MDs. That means Medical Doctor.

I generously gave you an out, that you should have said "not clinicians" or "not practicing patient care".

And so you reply with a wordily-expanded rehash of what I said, and lie through your teeth, that the distinction was your idea, and that you are instructing me.

And you continue to ignore the increasing retrospective data about the horrible after-effects of the clot shots.

Looking forward to the Nuremburg 2 trials, as more and more comes out about what was known about the side effects of the clot shots before they were forced on people.

I don't need any fan-bois, nor do I care about them.

You're projecting again.

[Radix]

Since none seem to have remarked this Post, I suppose that I can address it. As you said ‘Physicians are Clinicians who practice at bedside and takes care (of) patients.’ Well, I worked intimately close with dozens, more likely hundreds of ‘Covid Patients.’ In fact every single Patient who entered my Hospital's ER was automatically presumed to be Covid positive.

This was quite distressing to my Department as we always received the call to contend with these infectious Patients. The truth is that those bedside Physicians in our ICU never got within 10 feet of a bed for a year at least. They did their Rounding from outside of the rooms. They used the Nurses remote monitors to track vital signs and computer reports for ventilator settings.

The only time that Physicians entered those rooms were for Codes, Intubations, or procedures such as inserting A-Lines. There was no ‘bedside management’ happening. Certainly I do presume that this was the case in other large hospitals. I cannot know that, but it seems quite likely.

That was good times, Physicians ‘rounding’ from yards away from the Patients, shielded by protective doors and other barriers. I would attest to this in a Court while under oath. This stuff went on for more than a year. Meanwhile it was all ‘try this, try that.’ They were tweaking ventilator settings constantly as those young Interns and Residents were clearly mystified. Fine, let me get it. They had us donning and doffing constantly according to the protocol.

Hypertensive Patients were on ventilator settings which made absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is incredible that one such as myself could make such a difference in people's lives, but I did so. Me, some kid from the Projects was saving lives regularly, despite the best efforts of those ‘bedside professionals’ to guess their way into figuring shit out and placing them in jeopardy of expiration in hours or sooner.

Few will ever know of what I and my Associates were able to do. We do not get the spotlight. The TV Crews do not come to us and ask about how difficult things were. I have had ‘Doctors’ inquire of such banal things. ‘What is `BiPAP?’ I fixed so much shit during my time and almost none will ever know. It is OK, because I know. You Sir or Ma’am clearly do not.