Posted on 08/07/2022 12:17:27 AM PDT by Trump20162020
I like Burger Kings plant burger, it has much more flavor.
If a product is desired, Business will supply it
Conservatives are not against change but prefer change with purpose.
https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Jiminy_Cricket
Mebe they can license Jiminy Cricket from Disney......
The name alone was a marketing disaster. Implies something radically wrong with the product. Like a health care center named Beyond life.
Seems like it's easier to just eat real meat in the first place.
I've told this story before but I hosted a large family barbecue back in the 1990s. Naturally one of the family members proclaimed herself to be a hard-core vegan. So in order to accommodate, I went to the special store to get the special "vegan" meats and tofu, which she only ended up nibbling at.
After a while, my gas grill ran out of propane so I went to my shed to get another cylinder. Inside the shed was my vegan relative scarfing down a couple of hot dogs with tell-tale mustard on her lips. She was quite obviously embarrassed to be caught red-handed.
But I was polite about it. I never brought it up to her and never mentioned it to the rest of her family. Point of the story that a lot of this vegan crap is just virtue-signalling.
Reminds me of the song "Junk Food Junkie" by Larry Groce.
With the knowledge that many in this country have no desire or inclination to buy fake meat, do the people who are professing feeding the common folk bugs really think they can get away with it?
As if a hot dog, of all things, would be the thing to crave at a bbq. Shocking actually.
Big Time. Former friend gone nuts lefty a few years back proudly announced, several times, “I’m thinking about becoming a vegetarian”, as if were a Big Deal that everyone needed to know. Couldn’t wait to get his Tesla. Is still out of his mind over COVID. Went a year or so without going out in public. He and his wife had groceries delivered from Whole Foods. Seriously. And it is an hilarious fact that vegans will definitely find a way to let others know that they are their moral superiors within minutes of meeting them. If meat is on the menu, just don’t have any.
“Oh for cripes sake hear it the latest wacko theoey...meat is going to be banned..”
I guess if you want to be particular, replaced ‘banned’, with ‘effectively banned’.
Are you not familiar with what’s going on in The Netherlands and Canada? I expect the same here after the Mid-terms.
If you don’t want to eat meat, why would you eat veggies masquerading as meat? I don’t eat meat masquerading as veggies.
...meat is going to be banned...
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First it becomes scarce and expensive due to laws against aspects of husbandry or bans on catching the wild source. Then it becomes demonized as gross/inhumane, just like goose liver pate or sturgeon eggs or veal.
I was raised on veal. It was inexpensive and an alternative to pork for those keeping kosher. It is now unavailable in normal groceries and the last time I saw it at Whole Foods, perhaps 5 years ago, it was $40/lb. Most people under 50 have never tasted it and the very thought makes them uncomfortable or ill. Farmers will not produce it because they could be ratted out as inhumane, besides it being expensive to slaughter the young, milk-fed, confined animal instead of letting it graze to full size. I make my own chicken liver pate, but the cost of the livers has risen 2x-3x recently.
I also render chicken fat and tallow. They are still available for specialty stores, but the prices are phenomenal considering what healthy fats they both are. What market forces are at play to make what is otherwise waste simply disappear? None. It is done for ideological purposes and to reduce competition for hydrogenated seed oils. Butter is now available in 1/2 pounds because of the same reasons.
They won’t need to ban it, just depress the market by making it too expensive to produce or buy, due to regulations and conditioning, wait until no one recalls the taste or has any craving for it, then let it disappear. Eventually, the meat animals themselves achieve the same fate and will be gone.
People do become hyperbolic, but they are not wrong about goals. What do you suppose the real reasons behind the *new* ‘nitrogen control’ laws on farmers are.
These are virtual, incremental bans that go far beyond meat to eventually encompass fresh eggs, real, whole milk and full fat yogurt, cream cheese, full fat cheeses, and sour cream, all of which have jumped in price and become intermittently scarce as a starting point.
This doesn’t even touch the various non-edible animal products that will be impacted. The goal is a world without domesticated animals and it is in process. Period.
do the people who are professing feeding the common folk bugs really think they can get away with it?
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They are certainly spending a huge amount of money, time & effort to attempt it. And, considering the market for flavored, extruded and fried meals, it will likely be successful. Imagine eating Cheese Puffs that you can tell yourself are ‘high protein’?
Eventually, it will succeed because there will be no other options.
Just wait until they start replacing beef with it without telling you.
“They won’t need to ban it, just depress the market by making it too expensive to produce or buy, due to regulations and conditioning, wait until no one recalls the taste or has any craving for it, then let it disappear. Eventually, the meat animals themselves achieve the same fate and will be gone.”
Never going to happen. Its like saying they are going to eliminate sex.
A Beyond Burger, however, includes 18 ingredients: water, pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, rice protein, natural flavors, cocoa butter, mung bean protein, methylcellulose, potato starch, apple extract, salt, potassium chloride, vinegar, lemon juice concentrate, sunflower lecithin, pomegranate fruit powder, and beet juice extract ...
Its like saying they are going to eliminate sex.
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I maintain that people will eat whatever as long as it is available and satisfies a few hardwired aspects such as taste and minimal nutrition, even if both are ersatz. Most fast/processed food already meets those requirements.
Promotion of ideologically-based diets has reached the point where, some few specific failures notwithstanding, there are large enough markets for vegetarian, vegan, gluten-free (gluten is the protein component of grain) to comprise significant economic sectors within the food industry.
It would be interesting to compare the market size of the above diets to the keto/paleo/clean food diet promotions. While perhaps healthier, these particular diets de-emphasize processed carbs to a large degree. The differences could boil down to the carnivorous diets being hormonally healthier than the ones substituting for animal protein and related animal products.
So, I can see where people will accept whatever can fool their bodies into satiety even if the nutritional requirements are only being met by approximation
Sex doesn’t interfere with the stated goals for humanity as long as it is not successfully reproductive and/or does not create a resistance enhanced with emotional (perhaps atavistic) energy by creating family units based on shared heredity.
To what do you attribute the promotion of homosexuality, masturbation, various forms of reproductive mutilation, and the near canonization of men masquerading as women, not to mention the concomitant derision aimed at *trad* relationships, natural parenthood and women who have not accepted the globally-approved definitions/presentations of ‘feminine’? Why is historically accepted masculinity defined as *toxic*? What drives the insistence that birth parents are inferior social role models?
I venture that you are missing the entire forest by virtue of normalcy bias. The world is being changed rapidly wrt every single past accepted definition of any given metric. I live in a place where I never see the variously encouraged alternatives to genetically determined gender (just as the ersatz meat is non-existent). But that doesn’t matter. If I consumed more than a smattering of state-supported legacy media, I would be as immersed in it as any inhabitant of a large urban area. People are not mounting barricades against the sex/gender education being forced on children for the fun of it. That particular resistance is fueled by real perceived dangers and requires a lot of energy and not a little social/economic/personal danger.
Just like ersatz food, people will accept orgasmic sex, in vitro gestation and any promoted version of *family* that minimally meets whatever personal need for intimacy they have been taught to expect and which is deemed socially acceptable/rewarded.
I have long hoped to *age out* before the goals being implemented are reached. However, from an historical perspective, so many changes all at once taking place globally have escalated the predicted cascade to the point that I expect to see the results within 5-8 years, right on schedule.
Do you see vastly successful sociological resistance anywhere? I could use some reason for optimism that the changes will take at least 10-15 years more.
As things stand, without such a successful resistance, those who eat meat that they likely will have to raise or hunt themselves will be as relegated to the fringes (some sort of Pale of Settlement arrangement) as will the genetically-determined, traditional reproductive man/woman>>family arrangement we’ve all taken for granted for millions of years.
——Promotion of ideologically-based diets——
McDonalds is one of America’s truly great corporations. Why would you assume that offering a vegetable based meal would be ideological?
I would assume it was a business decision made to enhance the customer base not presently served and to make a profit doing so.
Since there was no appeal and hence no profits, the product was eliminated. An Ideological company would have carried the product along at a loss.
Aside: I have developed a protein deficiency and a Vitamin B 12 deficiency.
When looking for protein supplements and vitamins I ran across tons of stuff for vegans. Turns out they are always deficient in protein and B 12 and there are tons of products marketed to remedy the shortfall.
as a sort of comical foot note, lots of jocks consume mass quantities of protein supplements. Walmart has two whole rows for them. Interspaced are the vegan plant based protein supplements. Vegans won’t eat the good stuff because the main ingredient is whey
If I could I would bet you in 10 years I will still be able to go to the butcher or grocery store and get a nice juicy steak no problem, no strings attached.
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