All I know is that we cannot afford to lose in 2024.
I like Trump but we cannot lose. I believe DeSantis has the better chance because Trump has some that will never vote for him and there will be a greater effort to steal it from him again.
> I believe DeSantis has the better chance because Trump has some that will never vote for him... <
You’re bound to catch some flak for that. But it’s a very good point. Trump alienated a lot of soccer moms. Sad, but true. I say this from talking to many of them. They are sorta, kinda conservative. But they are missing the big picture. Trump lost them, and it will be difficult to get them back.
Oh?
Which ones of those rally attendees would that be? or the over 70 million real votes he got in 2020?
Too many eyes on even 2022 primaries, which is why it couldn’t be stolen from Kari Lake, for example. And why would you think they would not try to steal it from DeSantis if he were the candidate?
My biggest concern with Trump is he has no legal strategy to combat the steal. His two sons should have mobilized a legal army. They didn’t and they’ll be caught flat-footed again if he runs.
If they don’t try to steal it from DeSantis then DeSantis isn’t worth a damn anyway.
LOL! The greater effort to undermine a candidate and steal an election, means the candidate is right over the target. Just like Trump...
Considering demographic trends and the fact that a big green light was given for massive vote fraud when the USSC decided not to get involved with the steal of 2020, I doubt another Republican will ever win again. I’m not joking.
You are right.
I don't think they changed many minds since their first attempt. Although they got the dumbest leftists to actually believe Trump was a Russian plant, and he is the most awful man to roam the planet.
The minute DeSantis declares he will run for the presidency, they will do the same thing to him. The EXACT same play book.
It worked on Bush, it worked on McCain, it worked on Romney.
Trump won because he fought back, against all odds. He won in 2020, but had it stolen.
You, and all of the DeSantis supporters here (yes, I like everything he has done for Forida, he is my favorite governor, wish I had him.) are being extraordinarily short sighted, and somewhat foolish believing he can fight as hard, or as well as Trump. We simply don't know that, none of us, and that includes all of the DeSantis supporters here.
Agree. Trump doesn’t give us our best chance of winning, and winning should be our top priority. As much as it hurts to face it, it becoming very clear that the left is not going to let Trump back in the WH. They will do whatever it takes to keep him out. He sets their hair on fire - nobody energizes the left like Trump. The fraud they committed in the battleground states in 2020 is nothing compared to what they are willing to do between now and 2024 to keep Trump out of the WH. Putting him on trial in criminal court is just one of many steps they will take. And they will get away with it because the media is complicit in this effort. And the Republican establishment will not come to his defense.
Our conservative base will stand behind Trump for sure. But those beyond the base are a different story, and the left knows that Trump will need more than his base to get reelected. The left, helped in large part by the media, are also “Palin-izing” Trump at every turn. And it seems to be working.
Unfortunately Trump’s actions too often play into their hands. A lot of people beyond the our base are tired of the drama. They are not interested in rehashing what happened in 2020 - they often about Trump’s “unproven” and “unsubstantiated” election fraud claims, as the media alway puts it (even conservative media) - and they are not interested in vendettas.
The left will go after DeSantis if he runs, but not with the same emotional hatred they have for Trump. They will be happy that they successfully kept Trump out of the WH.
It does not matter WHO the Republicans nominate in 2024 with regard to Democrat cheating!
Democrats gotta cheat to win!
You know it, they know it!
I do not believe that the anti-Trumpers can prevail. If DJT is the nominee, he will win!
Governor DeSantis needs to finish the job here in Florida, and it will take four more years.
Then he can move to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and continue DJT’s MAGA program!
—> I believe DeSantis has the better chance because Trump has some that will never vote for him and there will be a greater effort to steal it from him again.
Trump got more votes than any previous potus.
He can draw a crowd anywhere in the country and does monthly.
Desantis has never done that.
Even Hispanics and black voters are turning to trump.
Yup!.... lol...and I believe you! ..that's what is so scary about idiots like you posting here....you couldn't buy a clue if you've read or followed this site for any length of time..... Can you tell me if you ever had any common sense and quote a post you've made on here reflecting that??
I didn't thinks so... Ive already reviewed your post... and BTW... youve made the “list”...
Congratulations!.... /s
Nope. Trump needs to be President again to fix this mess.... and Desantis can follow after that.
You saw what Cheney said,right? They will go after DeSantis just the same as they did Trump. It’s Trump or Bust!
Whimp.
Trump. Accept no substitutes!
In 2016 Trump got 63 million
In 2020 Trump got 74 million a record for republicans
In 2008 Obama got 69 million
In 2016 Hillary got 65 million
Most of us believe believe at least 10% of dem votes are harvested or illegal
How you extrapolate from those numbers Trump isn’t a stellar candidate and given polls of support for Trump that DeSantis is better defies a clear appraisal of his support
He’s the most popular republican candidate in history
Or we can’t win anyhow unless republican establishments stop fraud in their states
The first is a fact
The second may be true sadly
DeSantis who is promising can wait