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Increasing The IRS Annual Budget By Seven Times Doesn’t Add Up
American Thinker ^ | 6 Aug, 2022 | Anony Mee

Posted on 08/06/2022 5:09:36 AM PDT by MtnClimber

It looks more like Biden’s Congress is funding an $80 billion war on We the People.

The talk in the media is about a “beefed-up” IRS. The IRS budget for FY 2022 totals nearly $14 billion ($11.9 billion in appropriated funds) with a full-time equivalent (FTE) staff ceiling of 79,808 (75,533 from appropriated funding.)

Now, the Democrat-controlled Congress, at the behest of the Biden Administration, wants to take that up an additional almost $80 billion, with 1% going to Department of the Treasury offices other than the IRS. That adds up to nearly $93 billion, seven times this year’s budget. SEVEN TIMES.

In addition, Democrats want to add in another 86,852 FTEs, more than doubling the staffing to 166,660. These positions are described as “new, specialized enforcement staff.” See page 17 of the American Families Plan Tax Compliance Agenda for more. The increased funding and staffing are designed to restore IRS enforcement capability through a sustained rebuilding of the IRS.

According to IRS data, staffing was at a peak in 1995 at 114,064 FTEs. That was before automation, common use internet, and e-filing. Data processing took more than a quarter of all staff.

Within two years, the data processing staff was cut in half—no surprise there—and disappeared altogether as a category a couple of years later. As banking became more automated, collections staff numbers other than revenue officers were reduced by two-thirds. With the advent of e-filing, the filing and account management staff declined. Staffing has been more or less at today’s level for a decade, which is eminently reasonable as more sophisticated automation is available to both the IRS and the taxpayer. Under these circumstances, the IRS will not be rebuilding its old structure nor restoring anything that may have been lost. So, what’s going on?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; creepstate; deepstate; irs; persecution; policestate; singlepartystate; tyranny
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To: Engedi

“Billions going to staffing but I’m not seeing any for upgrading computer systems.”

The funding does include a few billion for upgrading computer systems.

The problem is that the systems are so antiquated that the overhaul will be incredibly complex and difficult since almost nobody is still around who understands the old systems.

Here is an anecdote from another government agency I was familiar with....

One day a thirty five year veteran lady retired.

She was the supervisor of a very obscure corner of a federal agency—so obscure that nobody else knew how to do her job.

It took one year after she left before the &^$% started to hit the rotating blades.

The computer system from the 1960s got 99% of the transactions correct without human intervention.

What nobody knew at the time was that this woman had been doing manual overrides of the system on the 1% of transactions that the computer system &^%$ed up.

The letters of complaint started to hit the agency after a few months and get sent to the obscure office where she used to work.

The workers had no clue what to do with them—so they stuck them on the bottom of their pile of work and ignored them!

It took several years and millions of dollars to design a “fix”—and my sources told me that there were other little “glitches” that were one tenth of one percent of transactions that still were not fixed—because nobody on site even knew what they were.

You can throw all the money and bodies you want at the problem—but if you lack the true expertise all you get is chaos.


61 posted on 08/06/2022 8:20:07 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: MtnClimber

How many rounds of ammo ?


62 posted on 08/06/2022 8:26:48 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: MtnClimber

I figured as much but honestly don’t really care about being honest about what they say. I know that is wrong but I’m becoming more petty, spiteful, bitter and ruthless when it comes to these fools. Other than that, I’m mad and hate them.

Never fight fair and never bring a knife to a gun fight.


63 posted on 08/06/2022 8:29:20 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Just wait. They’re coming after eBay people. There are millions of them and they are in a bullseye.


64 posted on 08/06/2022 8:39:24 AM PDT by PeteyBoy (The wall. Build it and they won't come. (Until they tear it down))
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To: PeteyBoy

You’re right. They think there is a fortune to be harvested there or something.

Fortunately, I’m not in that target area.

Of course, they’ll spend $1,000 to get $1. Only the gooberment can afford such economics. It is the same whey the department of just us does, spend millions of dollars and man hours against the accused’s paltry resources.

I wonder if they ever thought about a flat tax? Naw. If they did that how would politicians favor friends and punish enemies? That would mean one less lever for them to use for black mail and embezzlement.


65 posted on 08/06/2022 8:49:39 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: cgbg
I enjoyed the part about the IRS still using 1960s software as the “backbone” on their software infrastructure.

My first job out of college was teaching COBOL. I understand the IRS is looking for instructors...

66 posted on 08/06/2022 8:51:10 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: MtnClimber
I think the funding amount is for several years.

"There is almost $80 billion in appropriations for the IRS to put toward taxpayer services and enforcement specified in the bill, nearly all of which would be available until 2031.

To contextualize the proposed appropriations amount, the IRS had actual expenditures of $13.7 billion in fiscal 2021. That included supplemental funding so that the agency could handle COVID-19-related expenses.

An increase that averages out to roughly $8.9 billion per year would represent a significant boost to the agency’s budget."


67 posted on 08/06/2022 8:57:57 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

What they need is both people who understand the old systems and people who understand the “old way of doing things”.

A private sector example might be an old manufacturing company that had two computer systems, one for industrial products and another for consumer products.

While the systems may not have been expected to talk to each other, some sharp young geek in the old days may have figured out that if they did talk to each other it could save him a lot of work (duplicate programming).

So—the geek set up subroutines where periodically the two systems shared some data and used it for different purposes. Since he was getting paid for programming both systems he would not want to tell the bosses what he did since he was reading books or sleeping during all the time he saved.

Fast forward sixty years later (!) and the geek is long retired and it is time to overhaul the ancient systems.

The new programmers will probably not catch the communications subroutines (since there were not supposed to be any according to the documentation) so they will fail to duplicate it—as a result some subroutines will not run on the new system.

There will be no obvious errors at first—sometimes this stuff can take months or years to detect.


68 posted on 08/06/2022 9:00:18 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: MtnClimber

In my opinion Republicans should already be running ads in every single competitive House and Senate race talking about this. People hate the IRS, they would freak out if they knew the Democrats wanted to expand it seven fold.


69 posted on 08/06/2022 9:16:13 AM PDT by apillar
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To: MtnClimber

I suppose it would be out of the question to look into fraudulent claims regarding covid relief funds and undeserving stimulus checks. I never received any of that money and it seemed like everyone I knew had .


70 posted on 08/06/2022 9:22:54 AM PDT by daku
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To: daku

A 1% income tax will get peoples attention when you tell them you’d get ALL of it(minus the 1%). Then the can ‘feel’ their ‘whole’ paycheck before spending it. Getting rid of the 1% will be a downhill battle after everyone knows they’ve got skin in the game-heard it somewhere.

I’d even go as far as promising to give 1-2 year ‘rebates’ for every department eliminated. Divide the money saved and offer it to the bottom 20% of earners. Their income can be calculated through the 1% figure.


71 posted on 08/06/2022 10:05:15 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: semimojo

Thanks for the info. That is about what I remember. If the spending is applied evenly until 2031 then that is a 65% increase over 2021 on a non-inflation adjusted comparison. That does not mean that the money could not be spent faster and new funds requested before 2031. This is HUGE increase, but not 7X. It is still something to be worried about.


72 posted on 08/06/2022 11:07:51 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
While Free Republic members are some of the brightest folks on the Net, I offer this as an aide to understanding where we're headed if the Demoncraps get away with stealing another national election. Oh...ALWAYS VOTE DEMOCRAT!!

STALIN'S WARNING https://www.bitchute.com/video/TjtZVFDhpAx4/

73 posted on 08/06/2022 11:39:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: bert

I agree Bert!

Tariffs are necessary insofar as they are required to keep the playing field level between trading partners; e.g., if country A imposes a 30% tariff on American products, America should impose a 30% tariff on country A’s products.

The beauty of the FAIRtax is that it taxes imports. In today’s environment, where most of our trading partners impose a VAT on imported goods and REBATE the VAT on exported goods, America is at a HUGE disadvantage!

American exports carry the burden of American taxes AND importing country’s taxes; i.e., double taxation.

Foreign goods often enter the USA with NO tax burden, and can unfairly compete with like American foods.

FAIRtax taxes foreign and domestic products at the same rate, thereby helping level the playing field.

AND, since FAIRtax is NOT imposed on exports (it is a point of retail sales tax), American goods can compete head to head (price and quality) against foreign goods in their marketplace — the pay the same taxes!

Imagine that! Competing on a level playing field at home and abroad!


74 posted on 08/06/2022 1:26:30 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: bert; Taxman
But, the China tariffs were in actuality a tax increase ultimately borne by American consumers.

Besides promoting domestic industry we all know tariffs raise revenue. So that is feature and not a bug. And what is the problem with consumers bearing the tax load? There is none. Don't buy, don't pay. The income tax, that GOPe types love, is evil and taxes man's sweat off of his back.

But old people, selfish lot IMO, prefer the workers pay the taxes and not them. They don't want to pay more for the imported coolie made goods in their "golden" years. At least be honest about it.

75 posted on 08/06/2022 2:50:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Taxman
And, while I am not opposed to tariffs, what makes you think a tariff on imported goods will generate enough money to support the Fed?

It would support the discretionary spending. The parole tax, to cover SS & MC, would unfortunately have to remain in place (for now).

76 posted on 08/06/2022 2:53:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Who will pay the tariffs?

What is a “parole” tax?


77 posted on 08/06/2022 7:27:09 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: central_va

I fully agree that the Marxist inspired “progressive” income tax is evil!

ALL taxes are paid, directly or indirectly, by consumers!

Retail sales (consumption) taxes are the ONLY proper way to raise revenue for local, state and federal governments, because EVERY consumer is treated (taxed) at the same rate at the retail check out counter!

In fact, all other forms of taxation should be abolished, and governments at all levels should rely solely on consumption taxes!

IMHO, once the FAIRtax is implemented, and they see how well the FAIRtax works, local and state governments will very quickly abandon all other forms of taxation in favor of a consumption tax.


78 posted on 08/06/2022 7:38:32 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: Taxman

Sort of. However, the income tax is a tax on work and has nothing to do with consumers or consumption.


79 posted on 08/06/2022 8:19:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Taxman
What is a “parole” tax?

Payroll not parole (auto correct).

80 posted on 08/06/2022 8:31:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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