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To: DiogenesLamp

Northern people didn’t particularly hate blacks, but by the mid-19th century, there was certainly discrimination, which was why the USCT was so controversial. Many people in the Union Army, btw, weren’t even Northerners, but Irish or other immigrants hired off the docks by wealthy people to take their places in the draft.

Beginning to see a pattern here? One Tennessean said the war was a war of the few (wealthy people) against the many (the rest of us, Southern or Northern, white or black).

Sounds kinda familiar.


366 posted on 08/02/2022 12:52:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
Northern people didn’t particularly hate blacks,...

To the contrary. They hated black people with a passion bordering on insanity.

You might want to read this example about how the people of Illinois felt about black people.

Many people in the Union Army, btw, weren’t even Northerners, but Irish or other immigrants hired off the docks by wealthy people to take their places in the draft.

I have read that many were simply grabbed off the boat and enlisted into the Army without any choice.

Beginning to see a pattern here? One Tennessean said the war was a war of the few (wealthy people) against the many (the rest of us, Southern or Northern, white or black).

There is a lot of truth in that. It certainly set up the Federal government (and those who control it) as King in the land.

Sounds kinda familiar.

Same playbook the Liberals have been using since 1860.

367 posted on 08/02/2022 1:42:30 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: livius; DiogenesLamp; Bull Snipe
livius: "Many people in the Union Army, btw, weren’t even Northerners, but Irish or other immigrants hired off the docks by wealthy people to take their places in the draft."

The usual number for total Union Army is around 2.1 million men.
Of those, roughly 25% were foreign born =~525,000.
Foreign born troops came primarily from Germany, Ireland & Britain.
Another 200,000 were Union colored troops = about 200 regiments.
Around 150,000 Union troops were conscripts.

The usual number for total Confederate Army is around 1.0 million men.
Of those no more than 5% were foreign born = ~50,000.
There were no Confederate colored regiments, but the numbers of slaves serving Confederate armies in non-combat roles could easily match the 200,000 Union colored troops.
Around 120,000 Confederate troops were conscripts.

414 posted on 08/03/2022 5:56:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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