Posted on 07/22/2022 9:25:07 PM PDT by grundle
Look, it’s back. Here to insult everyone. To once and for all prove that it is intellectually superior to the rubes here at FR. It reads important literature. Literature that we here at FR wouldn’t understand because it’s for special people. We should be honored just to be in it’s orbit. If only the people at FR could be so perfect.....
“You must have a crystal ball since you know the terminator vaccines are “safe and effective” without any long-term clinical studies to base that opinion on.”
Nah, it just means that I don’t pretend to have more expertise than the vaccine researchers who designed Warp Speed.
I leave that to its critics who made the same point that you’re running with. Pelosi, Biden and Kamala all warned that “the Trump vaccines” were being rushed to market and are therefore dangerous. But then they changed their tune when it became convenient, or when the science turned out not to be settled, take your choice.
Trump knew that there could not be long term studies when he authorized Warp Speed. Of course the scientists (or maybe they are just pretend scientists) stated that running test phases concurrently would work. Their reasoning is spelled out in their Warp Speed outline. I posted a link to it upthread. As one of their fellow scientists you will surely want to read what they have to say.
They never mention what vaccines these dead people got, that would be significant information.
Yes everyone is different and the vaccines probably affect people in different ways.
Some of the vaccines may not have been made properly a little tweak could adversely affected certain people.
I thought about things like this early in the game and chose not to gamble with the vaccines and preferred to gamble with covid-19.
“Look, it’s back. Here to insult everyone. To once and for all prove that it is intellectually superior to the rubes here at FR. “
I’ve been here since 1999.
You’ve been here since January 2021?
Seems to me the one doing the insulting is you. Maybe you should find a site that fits you better.
I’m certain that you don’t know what I read. At most you know what I cite, none of them being Scientific American.
“You have faith only in your approved list of scientists and their sacrosanct institutions and publications”
Provide this list. I can use some humor.
You continue to miss the point.
“disbanded trump’s “operation warp speed”
Operation Warp Speed achieved its goal with the rollout of the vaccines in December 2020. Pretty sure Trump wouldn’t have kept it going either after it no longer had a purpose
“you’re pushing drugs for the biden administration...”
I take that to mean that you have been smoking something.
"Something from Nature or NIH?"
Often NIH citations.
Yeah, their deceptions can be pretty humorous.
By the Way ...
"Office staff girls at UC Irvine were helping me with a scheduling problem, probably around 1971. I mentioned David Crosby for some reason ..."
Could be very few degrees of separation here.
your false accusations and excerpting my post to your advantage proves you’re a liar...
Sorry you are wrong. Been reading for almost 20 years. Just started posting in Jan. 2021. Dude, your posts are insufferable. Self love is not a good thing. If you insist on coming to a community forum, try being nice to the community.
The data was everywhere. There is no way I can tell you the specifical moments and circumstances two and a half years after the fact. By late Feb, early March it was common knowledge that anyone under fifty in good health had nothing to fear and even a healthy eighty year old was probably going to survive it.
Only the hysterics who get their news from emotional television bobbleheads believed COVID was this great threat. Unfortunately there are far too many who still do. I haven’t watched TV news for thirty years. Anyone who still tries to get information from the television wants to be deceived.
You're the one denying the massive harmful effects of the clotshots.
Even after more and more evidence from all sides.
Ad hominem will not save you.
Ha ha. Nice try. It's the absence of response that's proof. The same government officials who told the public that COVID-1984 was so dangerous that it required massive lockdowns, mask mandates, social distancing, and mandatory experimental shots are the same government officials who marched with rioters such as Black Lives MatterTM in defiance of their own illegal diktats.
As I said, not one cleaner in a decon suit was sent to even one mass transit hub to help stop the spread of the Wuhanic Plague. Not even a one janitor with a can of Lysol either.
You’re making unfounded assumptions about her intent. She said what she said. To say she meant otherwise is truly magical thinking. Your remarks about Birx obviously don’t address anything substantive. So, I will leave that there.
As for the COVID vaccines, those teach your immune system to respond to a PROTEIN, not a virus. If you can’t see the difference and understand the impact of that difference as compared with traditional vaccines then I have to assume your further comments to be equally irrelevant. Your understanding seems rudimentary at best.
“ Sorry you are wrong. Been reading for almost 20 years. Just started posting in Jan. 2021. ”
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Yeah, we see why you spared us for almost 20 years.
Golly, what did we do to deserve you now I wonder??
The fact that you and your fellow “scientists” totally discount the astronomical numbers of VAERS reports and don’t even care to look into them tells me everything I need to know about you and your fellow “scientists.”
It took 60 years to develop the Polio vaccine and less than six months to do a novel mRNA vaccine. Normal FDA approval process through four phases takes 6 to 12 years.
So, yeah, this was one big Tuskegee experiment.
Re: “Well, Catterd, there is an easy solution to your obvious contempt of those who post such things—that is for you to not read the threads, not post on them and to not engage. Problem solved.”
Well, vivenne, in case you did not notice, the Freeper who posted this thread stated he was skeptical and asked for other Freepers’ opinions. Are only those whose opinions are the same as yours allowed to respond?
You have posted multiple times on this thread complaining about opinions contrary to yours. On a thread that was asking for opinions! Yet you think I and others of differing opinions should not post, not engage. In other words, you think we should just “cancel” ourselves.
I usually don’t read the nuttier anti-vaxxer threads except occasionally for amusement, and don’t post, just leave them to die in their little echo chamber of ten or so Q followers and their fellow travellers.
Sometimes I post information that refutes the claims made in an article posted (such as this one). Why not? If no one ever questions or corrects the wrong information contained in those articles, FR just looks like a another kooky conspiracy site. And sometimes honest people are looking for honest answers.
If you can’t handle any contrary opinions or information, you can always stick to the Special Q Thread. No dissent allowed there. We “normies” (as they call us when they’re not calling us ugly names) have no such special snowflake protected thread, yet we don’t complain. When an article is posted on the general board, it’s up for discussion and debate by all, including those who disagree.
You have posted numerous times on this thread complaining and complaining. You have never commented on the article or given your opinion as the original poster asked. I have posted my opinion and information relevant to the article several times:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4080412/postsadvice:202#202
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4080412/posts?page=325#325
Where’s your opinion? Normally we comment on the posted article or answer questions posed by the OP. Often, the conversation veers as time wears on, but all you’ve had to offer are complaints. If what others post bothers you so much, maybe you should follow your own advice: don’t read, don’t post don’t engage. Problem solved.
I don’t blame you for being skeptical. Even though I knew mRNA vaccines had been in works for decades and not really all that new, I questioned whether quality control could be maintained to top standards what with the vaccines being rushed in manufacture. The same way I’d wonder about QC if the Chinese had some fantastical weapon that had completely rendered our cars useless and there was a warp speed manufacture of new cars to replace them. What if the brakes or clutch were not properly installed and caused me to wreck?
I also worried about long-term effects that might not be caught in the rushed trials. Yes, people had reason to question and be skeptical.
Now that the Covid virus has muted to be more contagious but less virulent, as viruses as f its type tend to do, and the vaccines are of little use against the new variants, the question of whether to get vaccinated is now moot. And we should just get on with our lives.
Opinions or outright insults repeated over and over? There’s a difference and that’s my point. The post you are responding to makes my point. You launch into the tired onspiricy theory lines and even go so far as to assume I’m on the “Q” thread (never read or posted on it, don’t even know what “Q” is all about) which you clearly look down on and equate anyone with a concern about the vaccine with your disdained Q people. Your statements were designed to insult— me personally on this response and others here who disagree with you. You are claiming I am doing what you are in fact doing and was calling you out about. You will never see that because as your posts show, you are blinded by your smugness.
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