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To: Red6

Your personal morality means zilch. Only thing that counts is what majority of Americans want. And majority do not want late term abortions and majority do not want complete ban on abortions. If extremists like you go away, the country could adopt a sensible plan restricting abortions and thus save many unborn lives and the excruciating pain the fully formed fetus feels when the skull is pierced with a sharp object.


130 posted on 07/03/2022 12:30:54 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable.)
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To: entropy12
The majority agrees that they want your pretty house and car. Now what?
The majority agree to burn you at the stake. Now what?

You still don't get it and you still can't formulate a single logical and consistent argument.

No-

We live in a Republic and Democracy is merely a process that allows for the will of the people to be included in the decision making.

***The US CONSTITUTION is that law of the land.***

A democratic made decision which contradicts basic constitutional rights (the Bill of Rights - which don't seem to matter much anymore in this country) or defined processes is “unconstitutional” which our public servants sworn to uphold the Constitution should not obey/follow, but that has become a big joke today (DHS, DOJ, heck you have the NIH/CDC influence policy making which is flagrantly unconstitutional).

Back to abortion. It all boils down to one simple question: At what point do you define this baby as living?

At conception, 7, 12, 20 weeks (the most common thresholds) or once born?

Regardless of where you define it, once you cross that line, it is killing someone, and the fact that this person was conceived through a rape or incest plays “Zilch” role.

It will all boild down to where states define life as begining, or if it can be elevated to the federal government and have them define it across the board. But wherever that point is, once you cross it, you would be killing someone (The US Constitution would be defending the rights of that person from that point on).

The entire issue of abortion is really just an issue where some folks (abortion industry, feminists, socialists) have managed to obfuscate things to a point where life no longer begins at conception (in the eyes of the majority), just like XX and XY no longer define ones sex (another radical extremist idea today).

Using emotional words (extremist, sensible), creating some image of a scenario (a 10 year old caring for a baby) ad hominem attacks, bandwagon (majority agrees)... none of these are arguments, those matter “zilch.”

The problem is once you open that door of abortion and ask the question of where does life really begin, you have some people which think a sensible answer is months after birth, since the brain has not really fully developed yet (it's not unlike killing a dog). And of course there are .0001% scenarios given which appeal to the emotions of folks for why that is a good idea: https://www.government.nl/topics/euthanasia/euthanasia-and-newborn-infants (how long do you think it will be before the definition of a horrible debilitating disease may include duress of the mother? Crowns disease? A cleft lip?...)

136 posted on 07/04/2022 7:01:43 AM PDT by Red6
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