What's Wrong With Russia's Military

The Infographics Show ^ | Apr 24, 2022 | The Infographics Show

[Widget Jr]

For decades, Russia has been the world's second most powerful military. Today, it is the second most powerful military inside Ukraine.

How in the world did a nation with such a significant military overmatch get into a quagmire against a much weaker power?

Just what is wrong with the Russian military?

[Widget Jr]

#74. 😂🤣😂🤣.
In simple terms, yes.

[Travis McGee]

Here is the real story, IMHO.

Why did Globo Homo/NATO/EU deliberately push all of Russia's clearly articulated red-line buttons, intentionally triggering the invasion of Ukraine, the invasion that Russia said would happen if Ukraine was going to be added to NATO? Even in February 2022, NATO/EU/USA diplos kept saying, "Ukraine is going to join NATO, shove it, Moscow!"

The invasion could have been stopped with a simple declaration that Ukraine would not join NATO. For this "principle," thousands of Ukrainians (and Russians) have died. This was not an accident, this was a deliberate provocation, with a known outcome.

And why now, in 2022, when the Ukraine conflict has been simmering since the GAE-sponsored coup in 2014?

IMHO, it's because the USA/NATO/MIC (Military Industrial Complex) needed to find a rapid replacement for Afghanistan, once that billion dollar a day MIC spigot was turned off. And the GAE/MIC grifters don’t give a damn if the war materiel ever makes it to the eastern Ukraine battlefields, or if it’s blown up in arsenals or on rail cars or in truck convoys in Western Ukraine.

In fact, the longer and more inconclusively the war drags on, the better. Why? Because all of the war materiel taken from U.S. stocks and sent to Ukraine will be replaced many times over at full cost to the U.S. taxpayer.

The Afghanistan money spigot was turned off, so the Ukraine spigot was turned on.

“War is business, and business is good!”

[Grzegorz 246]

“But in 2022, the 1991 border of The Ukraine is suddenly worth going to Nuclear WW3?”

So you say the rus nazis are not only crazy enough to launch the full scale war and kill thousands of people they were going to “liberate” but they are psychos ready to nuke the world ? And that's why everyone should get out of their way ?

[kiryandil]

Cool. Defense Politics Asia has a current 10-day weather forecast - I was having to fish that out by myself.

I saw this guy the other day after the fall of [most of] Popasna - he was verifying the newly-occupied parts of the city with on-the-scene video.

I was looking around to find the video because the scoffers were naysaying the Popasna news and couldn't find it - but this completes the circle for me with the actual channel itself.

[skepsel]

Maybe so but if the Soviets hadn’t signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler allowing him to launch
World War II all their sacrifices wouldn’t have been necessary.

[kiryandil]

Once the rus nazis take their young man back where they came from, to Asia, the slaughter will end immediately.

Young men and women on BOTH sides, you callous oaf.

[Grzegorz 246]

“The invasion could have been stopped with a simple declaration that Ukraine would not join NATO.”

1. Zele said that clearly like 2 months ago.

2. Ukraine in NATO has never been a real issue. Any new member must be approved by all of existing members.

[Crusher138]

Fizzled on the way, or fizzled when it was supposed to explode?

Also, what is the impact if only 33% of their hundreds of missiles work properly and the others just harmlessly fall in the ocean?

I do not think they will do a mass launch. A mass launch would require a mass counter-attack. Let a couple go and it could be "ooops...we made a mistake" kind of scenario, which the lefties could say doesn't justify a retaliation.

[carljollyrogers]

Russia does not even have a fifth of their military in Ukraine right now, they aren’t “losing”, they are being cautious because they don’t want to actually invade and occupy, their goal is simply to pressure the Ukraine government to sign a deal to be neutral.

[Grzegorz 246]

[Grzegorz 246]

"they aren’t “losing”, they are being cautious"

Da. Russia merciful. Russia humanitarian. Russia vitctorious.

[freeandfreezing]

How do we know the stories reported are true?

That question seems to appear whenever the war in Ukraine is the topic but not on other threads about things like the situation on the US/Mexico border. You can use the same techniques you would use to figure out if there really is a flood of illegal aliens across the southern border to try to understand what is happening in Ukraine.

When you see videos of illegal immigrants crossing the RIo Grande do you think that it really is happening, or you can't know for sure because the video might be fake and the people might just be actors hired by somebody?

There is more objective data available about the war in Ukraine than for any other conflict in history. You can watch videos of combat, and if you want you can look at thousands of photographs and videos of the consequences. In some cases you can watch video taken during combat, and see combatants or civilians killed as you watch.

You can look at collections of data, like thousands of images of destroyed tanks, trucks, howitzers, and other vehicles from both sides. You can look at satellite images, and see the same smoke you see in images taken from the ground or from attacking drones.

You can even see the density of people using Russian cell phones that are roaming on Ukrainian cell phone networks. It turns out that even in war young people from Russia bring their cell phones and use them.

There is plenty of data out there to look at if you want to know what is real and what is not.

[walkingdead]

“in Europe, borders have appeared, shifted, been erased, and reappeared several times a century for at least a thousand years.
But in 2022, the 1991 border of The Ukraine is suddenly worth going to Nuclear WW3?
Seriously?”

This is exactly what I have been saying. Europe has drawn and redrawn borders for time immemorial. They have been doing this long before us and will do so long after us.

I say let Europe duke it out. You want your borders to stay as they are, then historically, you will need to defend them. This is how it has worked through all of human history. But as you said, now in 2022 borders are frozen forever? Good luck with that, but you will not be using my son to defend a european border, our fathers and grandfathers have done enough already.

We would do well to heed the founders words on foriegn entanglements.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

"Ukraine in NATO has never been a real issue."

Where have you been?

Not everyone would see the Ukraine crisis as a perplexing product of Putin’s eccentricities. Consider the current CIA director, William Burns. Back in 2008, the year George W. Bush fatefully badgered reluctant European leaders into pledging future NATO membership to Ukraine, Burns sent a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that included this warning:

Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.

Burns added that it was “hard to overstate the strategic consequences” of offering Ukraine NATO membership—a move that, he predicted, would “create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.”

So Burns predicted 12 years ago that pretty much the entire Russian national security establishment would be inclined to make trouble in Ukraine if we offered NATO membership to Ukraine—yet now that we’ve promised NATO membership to Ukraine and Putin is indeed making trouble in Ukraine, people like McFaul and Nichols say the explanation must lie somewhere in the murky depths of Putin’s peculiar psychology.

[Grzegorz 246]

The real risk here is that if these imbeciles start messing around with nukes, they will likely blow themselves up.

[Lurker]

Maybe it is time for a national divorce in Ukraine. But divorces don’t happen at gun point. At least mine didn’t.

L

[Lurker]

“The Afghanistan money spigot was turned off, so the Ukraine spigot was turned on.”

I have no problem believing that.

L

[kiryandil]

And the GAE/MIC grifters don’t give a damn if the war materiel ever makes it to the eastern Ukraine battlefields, or if it’s blown up in arsenals or on rail cars or in truck convoys in Western Ukraine.

Right.

The dreamers in UPS delivery [Unicorn Parcel Service] of all these new weapons fail to understand the most simple facts of the battlefield logistics:

The weapons from the West have to cross 500-600 miles of Ukraine to the tip of the AFU spear - under the eye of Russian air power, artillery and missiles.

Russia can throw a rock west and hit the Donbass battlefield, without interdiction.

As you said - the MIC grifters don't care. Just like they didn't care about the tens of billions in weaponry left in Afghanistan.

[freeandfreezing]

they don’t want to actually invade and occupy

You forgot the utter fiction tag. Why would Russia be in the middle of invading Ukraine if they didn't want to? Why would they have seized Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine in 2014 if they didn't want to occupy it?

Why are they changing signs and setting up proxy governments in places they have invaded if they don't plan on occupying them?

[Lurker]

“Russia can throw a rock west and hit the Donbass battlefield, without interdiction.”

Apparently their aim sucks.

L