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The USA just gave Russia an excuse to seize all of Ukraine
https://abrahamstein.substack.com ^ | Apr 25, 2022 | Abraham Stein

Posted on 04/29/2022 5:25:20 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose

The USA just gave Russia an excuse to seize all of Ukraine

Abraham Stein Apr 25

The United States has just given Russia a valid reason to take complete control of all Ukraine. Today, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Diplomat Anthony Blinken paid a visit to the Ukrainian president Zelensky in Kyiv, it was their first visit with Joe Biden as American President. The visit made it clear that the United States is directly involved in the conflict with the Russians, and the comments from Secretary of Defense Austin makes it abundantly clear that only a full Russian takeover of Ukraine will bring peace. A partial Russian takeover will produce more war.

Weaken Russia

Austin is the leader of the United Sates military and he made it very clear what the U.S. intends to do in Ukraine.

“We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine,” Austin said at the news conference. “So it has already lost a lot of military capability. And a lot of its troops, quite frankly. And we want to see them not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that capability.”

Austin’s words can be read as a direct admission of war between the United States and Russia, it is obvious there will be no peace in the region unless the Kremlin controls all of Ukraine. The United States is throwing fuel on the fire, they have given an unstable hothead (Ukraine president Zelensky) a free reign to do as he pleases. Zelensky is not seeking peace, he is an egoist demanding ever increasing ransom money from the United States and heavy weapons. No amount of money will ever satisfy Zelensky, the U.S has made the mistake of getting in bed with the Ukrainian president, now they are stuck with him. Lloyd Austin and Anthony Blinken told the American people last year that all was well in Afghanistan and that the Taliban was “no threat” to the Afghan army, they were dumbfoundedly wrong. Austin and Blinken appear to be wrong again in Ukraine.

Austin words today might be read by the Kremlin as a direct threat to Russia, in all the years of cold war between Russian President Putin and the United States, Putin has never said that he wanted to “weaken the United States militarily”. It is clear the U.S is going in for a long war, which could trigger a nuclear response from one side.

All or nothing

For 70 years Ukraine was ruled by the Soviet Union and the region was at virtual peace.

The words today from Anthony Blinken, while not as direct as Austin, was also highly disrespectful.

He said, according to the BBC: "The bottom line is this. We don't how the rest of this war will unfold, but we do know that a sovereign, independent Ukraine will be around a lot longer than Vladimir Putin is on the scene. And our support for Ukraine going forward will continue and it will continue until we see final success."

Blinken words made it clear that the age of American-Russian diplomacy is finished, he made it clear that war will continue, and the only option is for Ukraine to win. The meeting today left no plans hidden, it is clear the Russian federation must take all of Ukraine, it is the only way to assure peace. Ukraine was under the Soviet Union for 70 years and there was never the threat of world war, as it is today with Ukraine under NATO control. A rogue, untamed, Western controlled Ukraine led by an erratic Zelensky makes the whole world unsafe. Zelensky and NATO will never stop pushing for conflict, unless Russia seizes all of Ukraine there is a real threat of Zelensky triggering world war 3.


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To: Jane Long; freeandfreezing; McGruff; robowombat
Awwww…you put a lot of time into that post…but, it’s the same Wikipoo, posted over and over.

It's entertaining at times to look at the edit histories of articles that are being "shaped" to fit "The Official Narrative" by the Lefty intellectual jackboots on Wikipedia.

We got our own little jackboot here in the form of "free"...

101 posted on 04/29/2022 10:15:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil
I guess you "forgot" to mention that little tidbit to the audience...

The Putin propaganda crew is out tonight, welcome back.

So now the 14,000 number that is a part of the talking point is somehow not correct? So what is the correct number?

The Wikipedia article links to the primary sources. Tell us what about the numbers cited in Wikipedia is incorrect.

Be careful, if the 14,000 number is wrong you just proved all those posts about the 14,000 people being killed in the Donbass are lies and your boss won't be happy with you for contradicting the official talking point.

102 posted on 04/29/2022 10:17:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing; McGruff; Jane Long; robowombat
You can look at the details of the estimate on Wikipedia, based on sources like the UN and the Ukrainian government.

Which have been edited to support the official "Ukraine Good, Russia Evil" Narrative.

Take your clown show down the road, free.

103 posted on 04/29/2022 10:18:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: freeandfreezing; Jane Long; McGruff; robowombat
The Wikipedia article links to the primary sources. Tell us what about the numbers cited in Wikipedia is incorrect.

Wikipedia is a rolling Lefty Lie Factory.

This has been documented many, many times.

You're a neoconned shill for the globohomo agenda, free.

104 posted on 04/29/2022 10:20:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: freeandfreezing
I'd be willing to bet you have quite the interesting posting history on FR - and I know just how to look at it.  winking face face with tears of joy face with tears of joy
105 posted on 04/29/2022 10:22:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Jane Long
So you don't believe the number of deaths reported by the LPR Deputy Foreign Minister?

She's a part of the LPR government.

106 posted on 04/29/2022 10:23:35 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: kiryandil
I know just how to look at it.

Aren't you special. You mean like a python script to download all of a Freeper's posts for easy analysis?

107 posted on 04/29/2022 10:25:01 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: kiryandil
Tell us what about the numbers cited in Wikipedia is incorrect.

As always you can't even answer a simple question. So what number in the tally of deaths from the Donbass fighting published by Wikipedia is wrong?

108 posted on 04/29/2022 10:27:09 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
So what number in the tally of deaths from the Donbass fighting published by Wikipedia is wrong?

Any political page on Wikipedia is wrong, Dad.

If you knew anything about Wikipedia, you'd know that.

It's pretty safe if you want information on music videos or baseball statistics.

I have some advice.

Turn off the TeeVee, and step away from the remote.

You'll be better for it.

109 posted on 04/29/2022 10:31:55 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil
Don't feel bad because your propaganda efforts are failing. Now you are trying to claim the very number that is the basis for the Russian talking point that they are invading Ukraine to protect the Donbass is false.

Try not to shoot yourself in the foot too often, just tell us all how many people died in the Donbass fighting from 2014 to 2021.

110 posted on 04/29/2022 10:32:39 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
No, even quicker.

You worked hard for the Reagan campaign.

That means you're an older specimen.

You were actually on the correct side during the primary wars of 2015-2016.

That speaks of intelligence.

It appears as though the TeeVee blitzkrieg in favor of the Ukies has clouded your mind.

Do you do Twitter?

111 posted on 04/29/2022 10:35:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: freeandfreezing
Now you are trying to claim the very number that is the basis for the Russian talking point that they are invading Ukraine to protect the Donbass is false.

Putting words in my mouth is just that - putting words in my mouth.

112 posted on 04/29/2022 10:35:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Ingtar

“Starving 7-12 million Ukrianians in 1932-33 tops the list.”

Yeah and the US had slaves and put surviving native americans on reservations.


113 posted on 04/29/2022 10:59:49 PM PDT by chuckb87
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To: foundedonpurpose
Like the Russians need an excuse!

Regards,

114 posted on 04/29/2022 11:08:53 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: marktwain; All
Kind of a weird way to define "virtual peace".

Yeah, kinda like saying that "Those three prostitutes I have chained up down in my basement - they're real peaceful!"

Regards,

115 posted on 04/29/2022 11:12:57 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: delta7
[...] the situation map is updated everyday and appears to jive jibe with the Brits MOD war maps since day one.

I don't "talk jive."

jibe: be in accord; agree.

"the verdict does not jibe with the medical evidence"

Regards,

116 posted on 04/29/2022 11:17:48 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: bakeneko

“Ukraine, Cossacks, Scythians whatever you want to call them, have been ruled by the RUS, whether the original Viking kingdoms, or the Tsars, or the Soviets, for 1000+ years.”

Except when it was ruled by the Poles, Lithuanians, Austrians, or Ottomans. History has never been a real strong suit around here, at least for the last two months.


117 posted on 04/29/2022 11:27:49 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: delta7

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118 posted on 04/29/2022 11:39:01 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: foundedonpurpose

“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”


119 posted on 04/29/2022 11:40:57 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Bob Dylan: "Propaganda, all is phony")
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To: captain_jonas; daniel1212
Also where is your list of times Russia was invaded or attacked?

How about you doing a little research for a change?

Regards,

120 posted on 04/29/2022 11:44:41 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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