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Ultra-light liquid hydrogen tanks promise to make jet fuel obsolete
www.newatlas.com ^ | April 21, 2022 | Loz Blain

Posted on 04/21/2022 2:39:28 PM PDT by Jonty30

A revolutionary cryogenic tank design promises to radically boost the range of hydrogen-powered aircraft – to the point where clean, fuel-cell airliners could fly up to four times farther than comparable planes running on today's dirty jet fuel.

Weight is the enemy of all things aerospace – indeed, hydrogen's superior energy storage per weight is what makes it such an attractive alternative to lithium batteries in the aviation world. We've written before about HyPoint's turbo air-cooled fuel cell technology, but its key differentiator in the aviation market is its enormous power density compared with traditional fuel cells. For its high power output, it's extremely lightweight.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: airlines; fakenews; hydrogen; jetfuel; liquid
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To: Yo-Yo

It’s combustible, so it’s a fuel itself.


41 posted on 04/21/2022 3:03:01 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Yo-Yo
Liquid hydrogen today comes from Natural Gas...and guess what the byproduct of that process is?

Steam-methane reforming reaction
CH4 + H2O (+ heat) → CO + 3H2

Water-gas shift reactionn
CO + H2O → CO2 + H2 (+ small amount of heat)

42 posted on 04/21/2022 3:03:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Liberty is an antecedent of government, not a benefit from government” ~ Clarence Thomas)
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To: jimwatx

Electricity is free, right? So no problem... /sarc


43 posted on 04/21/2022 3:03:22 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: bigbob
The issue for passenger cars is more complex but truck fleets such as FedEx or WalMart trucks that operate out of a specific hub location would be feasible for on-site hydrogen production. All it takes is natural gas and we have lots of that and it can safely be transported.

Or just build a fleet of natural gas vehicles. Much cheaper, easier and safer.

44 posted on 04/21/2022 3:04:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Helium would suck as a jet fuel.”

And leave the ground crew with those silly, squeaky high voices.

CC


45 posted on 04/21/2022 3:04:30 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Jonty30
" on today's dirty jet fuel"

I thought most fuels included some detergent to keep the engines clean.

46 posted on 04/21/2022 3:05:14 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Vermont Lt
I could never understand why Nat gas never caught on for cars.

Among other things, natural gas costs more and has less energy. It also consists of the greenhouse gas methane and a part of that leaks away during the extraction process.

47 posted on 04/21/2022 3:06:16 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I noticed that little politicking. Liberals just cannot help themselves.


48 posted on 04/21/2022 3:07:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Ask a liberal if they hav do they just collect them from les they destroy. )
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To: jimwatx

So Thermodynamics is not your strong suit?

Got it.


49 posted on 04/21/2022 3:08:02 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Helium would suck as a jet fuel”

And make the jet sound funny...


50 posted on 04/21/2022 3:08:45 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, bust that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: doc11355

The Blimp wasn’t exactly a “tank”. It was a BALLOON.


51 posted on 04/21/2022 3:08:47 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: jimwatx
just need a method by which such a splitting becomes economically feasible, with more energy produced compared to the energy required to split it

Conservation of Energy ... it's not just a good idea, it's the law.

52 posted on 04/21/2022 3:10:35 PM PDT by Campion (All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“How many new nuclear reactors should we build?“

Unless you’re speaking for your team of nuclear engineers none.


53 posted on 04/21/2022 3:12:46 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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To: nascarnation

Yup that would be the sticking point with electrolysis, unless they could find some sort of cheap catalytic method to produce it requiring much less energy inputted into the separation process. I still say nuclear fusion is the way to go, and think more should be spent investigating that.


54 posted on 04/21/2022 3:14:38 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Vermont Lt
I could never understand why Nat gas never caught on for cars.

Hard to store, basically. You either have to compress it and store it in a fairly heavy tank, or liquefy it, which means you have a thermos bottle of very cold liquid which can't be stored indefinitely. Nevertheless, there are a number of fleet vehicles that have been converted to NG.

I have a (stationary) NG fueled standby generator. While it's hard to handle, engines love it as a fuel. When I change the oil on the generator, the old oil looks -- after a year -- almost as clean as the new oil.

55 posted on 04/21/2022 3:15:15 PM PDT by Campion (All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
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To: Born in 1950
Unless you’re speaking for your team of nuclear engineers none.

Where are we going to get all this groovy hydrogen?

56 posted on 04/21/2022 3:15:48 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: jimwatx

Take it from a (former) chemist: Catalysts can change the kinetics (rate) of a reaction, but they can’t change the thermodynamics. Energy in will (at best!) equal energy out, no matter how you do it.


57 posted on 04/21/2022 3:16:57 PM PDT by Campion (All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
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To: Jonty30
hydrogen is a much better option than any battery.

Check out the so called Diamond battery. It uses expended nuclear fuel and and diamond dust to generate electricity, has to be recharged ever few thousand years so probably not an option.{:~)

Diamond Battery on YouTube

58 posted on 04/21/2022 3:21:47 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Where are we going to get all this groovy hydrogen?“

Unless you’re speaking for your team of hydrogen miners you’re not.


59 posted on 04/21/2022 3:21:50 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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To: Jonty30

The only thing that would have made this story better is if they somehow snuck in “graphine nanotubes.”


60 posted on 04/21/2022 3:23:25 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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