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To: C210N

I remember a man from Nevada who was convicted of tax evasion and false tax filings. He fought against personal income taxes and claimed that he could teach others how to avoid taxes.

IIRC one of his arguments was that people are sovereign citizens and taxing them directly is unconstitutional.

I had to do some digging but I found his name, Irwin Schiff.

He died in prison.

Many others served time because of him.

I remember at the time how much we hoped he would be successful in all his court cases. Unfortunately, the courts always ruled in the government’s favor.

He fought the good fight but they had to shut him down to discourage others from rising up against illegal taxation.


406 posted on 03/26/2022 12:55:18 PM PDT by Jvette (America was built on freedom not freebies)
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To: Jvette
Thanks for the Schiff reference - perhaps there are trailblazers making the mistakes so that in the future, folks can figure out the proper way to do it right. MANY ways to do it wrong. One needs to take dominion under ALL 3 Juris - Land, Air and Water. I've heard folks getting in trouble if they only address Water (Admiralty Law). Or, if they do not understand Standing.

The seminar I took from Lawrence (Straight does it too) addresses all - Common Law, Canon Law and Admiralty Law.


410 posted on 03/26/2022 1:07:03 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Jvette
Can get a flavor of the seminars:

David Straight Utah Seminar Day 1 P M part 1 of 5

414 posted on 03/26/2022 1:09:38 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Jvette; C210N; little jeremiah; HoneysuckleTN; EasySt

Yes, Irwin Schiff started doing that back around 1972-1973 time frame.

That’s 50 years ago.

A lot of people have lost a lot, trying to follow that path.


415 posted on 03/26/2022 1:13:44 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: Jvette

Regarding not paying taxes and getting into hot water...

The purpose of ASN/Sovereign-People is to reclaim status as a Free Man/WOman. It should NOT be primarily to evade taxes. It is only a byproduct of reclaiming sovereignity.

One cannot stop paying taxes, and then fight it as being unconstitutional. That will NOT fly.

If one goes reclaims People status, there is a dual path - on the US CITIZEN side, the IRS provides a form for the purpose of becoming exempt, from their POV from taxes - IRS Form 56. However, you MUST have your ducks in a row to file that form, with the proper Standing and Status.

Similar with property - need to get your alloidial titles. As a citizen, you do not own your automobile or domicile. You have a Certificate *of* title. It is not alloidial. Once you can claim these things, and have the proper standing as an ASN, and a Citizen of your State, you do not pay excise taxes nor real estate taxes. You do NOT pay taxes on things you own as a free sovereign People. The Constitution does not authorize direct taxes. As an ASN, you do not pay contract fees and taxes.


426 posted on 03/26/2022 2:04:28 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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