[C210N]

Thanks for the Schiff reference - perhaps there are trailblazers making the mistakes so that in the future, folks can figure out the proper way to do it right. MANY ways to do it wrong. One needs to take dominion under ALL 3 Juris - Land, Air and Water. I've heard folks getting in trouble if they only address Water (Admiralty Law). Or, if they do not understand Standing.

The seminar I took from Lawrence (Straight does it too) addresses all - Common Law, Canon Law and Admiralty Law.

[Jvette]

Hey, our Founding Fathers were trailblazers willing to risk their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to form this nation.

I admired Mr. Schiff and what he was willing to give up to end the unconstitutional income tax.

I am unfamiliar with the movement though. So often when they are portrayed in movies and TV they are disparaged as a kook fringe group.

Thanks for the info which I will check out.

[blu]

The trick to the whole sovereign citizen thing is getting the government to acknowledge a person as a sov. cit. That never happens.

People looking to go that route have my pity. It does not work, it only puts a little red dot on you. Think!!!