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Electric cars reduce carbon foot print /S
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Posted on 02/21/2022 6:35:10 AM PST by entropy12



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To: entropy12

I know they are lying about battery charging and discharging cycles as the energy efficiency is so low that even if you use a small carbon input for the power generation you don’t need much carbon in order to produce more carbon than an internal combustion engine.

The most carbon efficient engines run at a constant rpm because the engine can be tuned to high precision and efficiency but we only see these currently in large transportation vehicles such as ships and trains.


41 posted on 02/21/2022 7:17:28 AM PST by dila813
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To: entropy12

Drive a Tesla=-

Go, ahead, drive one.

Not look at one in pictues.

Drive it.

It’s phookin awesome.

Battery tech is improving every day. It’ll get there. Li will be replaced.

“Burst into flames” sounds like the argummenst used by Edison against Edison, or early gas cars.


42 posted on 02/21/2022 7:20:09 AM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: V_TWIN

Exactly.

“Zero emissions”. Well, at least on the roads if everyone was EV, the emissions wouldn’t be spread all over.

But they ARE at the plant. The plants will put out MORE to power these cars.

I’m not sure what’s worse - concentrated heavier emissions, or diffused emissions.


43 posted on 02/21/2022 7:20:10 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVd)
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To: Macoozie

I’d rather have a steam car. Just need a good heat generator. Wouldn’t need all that special storage.

Doble had a pretty cool idea and lasted longest.


44 posted on 02/21/2022 7:24:35 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVd)
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To: entropy12
That's true but minor compared to the machinery required to dig the lithium for the damn batteries:

Komatsu 960E, 3,500hp, 18 Cylinder Diesel, 1400 gallon fuel tank.


45 posted on 02/21/2022 7:26:27 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: entropy12
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46 posted on 02/21/2022 7:27:04 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Macoozie

BTW, one needs to consider how expensive these things are.

Right now, everything is subsidized. You’re even having businesses forced to put in “charging stations” for free. Never mind government buildings. (Never mind those spots are also preferred status locations, like handicapped.)

Once these idiots remove the freebies, idiots driving these things will find out. It’s always been known that electric heat is vastly more expensive than gas or oil, etc. That alone should give an idea how phony this is.


47 posted on 02/21/2022 7:28:01 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVd)
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To: entropy12

I heard a whole lot about the I-95 traffic jam. Actually it was in Virginia. I know because I was in it. I was down to 1/4 tank and fixing to fill up when I hit the backup. Ten hours later I managed to get off the highway and find some backroads.

Even at 1/4 of a tank I had absolutely no worries about running out.


48 posted on 02/21/2022 7:28:22 AM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR. Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee.)
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To: cymbeline

But oh no! It might blow up! It might radiate!

(BTW, if you want the whole truth on radiation - look at Hiroshima. It doesn’t last forever.)


49 posted on 02/21/2022 7:29:48 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVd)
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To: entropy12

I think you mean Virginia around Fredericksburg, close to Maryland.


50 posted on 02/21/2022 7:30:46 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVd)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“(BTW, if you want the whole truth on radiation - look at Hiroshima. It doesn’t last forever.)”

I think of that every time those two cities appear in the news. However, nuclear plants create waste products that radiate for a long time, but the volume of that waste is minuscule and is easily and safely storable.


51 posted on 02/21/2022 7:39:11 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: dangus; EEGator

Electric car advocates only consider the efficiency of the motor within the vechicle. It’s actually more efficient to burn fuel to power the car than it is to burn the fuel at a generating station, transmit the electricity over long distances to the charging station, and then drive the electric motors in the car.


52 posted on 02/21/2022 7:44:22 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: entropy12

And you can lay 100% of the blame for the lack of power generating facilities at the feet of Commiecrats who fight every proposal regardless of method of production.


53 posted on 02/21/2022 7:45:51 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969 )
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To: the OlLine Rebel

You are correct. I forgot the exact location. Just remembered it was on I-95.


54 posted on 02/21/2022 7:46:06 AM PST by entropy12
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To: EEGator

>> What losses occur from generation station to distribution outlet? <<

A hell of a lot less than leave an internal combustion engine. The MPGe may be a stretch as a metric, but you even if a Tesla Roadster doesn’t REALLY get 125 MPGe, it sure gets a lot more than the 16 MPG a performance sportscar would get.

The real measure of how much fuel it costs? A Tesla costs about $7.50 to charge... the price of two gallons of gas. It goes as far as an 8-gallon Toyota fill-up.


55 posted on 02/21/2022 7:46:51 AM PST by dangus
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To: SoCal Pubbie; dangus; EEGator

As a career engineer who spent a lifetime in main street economy, I admire your common sense and knowledge of electrical power transmission issues.


56 posted on 02/21/2022 7:48:39 AM PST by entropy12
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To: dangus

My Chevy Spark cost $13k to buy brand new.
I can buy lots of gasoline with money saved over a Tesla car.
Agreed my car is not as sexy looking, but we are comparing costs here since that was your point about cost to charge versus filling the tank with gas.


57 posted on 02/21/2022 7:51:43 AM PST by entropy12
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To: V_TWIN

And the dishonesty of the ICE car supporters who CLAIM we don’t know or care about the source. My source is Niagara Falls and solar.

Nobody, outside of the commiecrats, is demanding anyone must buy an EV. I’d defend any ICE car owner against such dictatorial mandates.

What is obvious is the ignorance of ICE car enthusiast, is every 20+ miles driven by an EV saves a gallon of fuel for them.

Not everyone is an ideal candidate for an EV. Like anything, there are great applications and awful applications.

Just like the scum of the earth city dwellers, like AOC, don’t think anyone needs a car because they have access to taxis, trains, subways and are 100% ignorant of the rest of the country.


58 posted on 02/21/2022 7:52:12 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969 )
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To: V_TWIN

In the USA along, there are an average of 400 ICE car fires every DAY. Is that not accurate?


59 posted on 02/21/2022 7:53:48 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969 )
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To: ronnie raygun
This is fine


60 posted on 02/21/2022 7:55:01 AM PST by Salamander ("Salamander has barbaric tendencies" /Gundog)
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