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"I simply cannot say I'm pro-police anymore ..."
twitter ^ | Feb 20 | Ezra Levant

Posted on 02/20/2022 2:03:47 AM PST by RandFan

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To: CodeToad

Power is intoxicating and there sure a lot of power drunks around today.


121 posted on 02/20/2022 7:48:29 AM PST by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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To: fatman6502002

If I head anywhere it will be to a warmer climate.😎 My hands give me hell in cold weather. Rheumatism ain’t fun. No, if it’s colder than Virginia I ain’t going. You damnyankees are welcome to all the cold and ❄ you want.


122 posted on 02/20/2022 7:53:59 AM PST by oldvirginian (So if a cow doesn’t produce milk, is it a milk dud or an udder failure?)
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To: JayAr36

“Power is intoxicating and there sure a lot of power drunks around today.”

I worked in criminal justice for a while (held a CJS L4 clearance). I found the Sheriff’s department spent significant resources to get rid of the Nazi cops. There were many of them. Lots of great deputies in that department, and very dedicated leaders, too, but they got some real winners from time to time that knew how to get through the psych evals and get hired.


123 posted on 02/20/2022 7:54:28 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Alberta's Child

A lot of conservatives act as if a large police presence is a good thing. I don’t see anything “conservative” about that at all. The defining characteristic of a free, law-abiding society isn’t a major police presence — it’s an armed citizenry

Hear hear!


124 posted on 02/20/2022 7:57:37 AM PST by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead

Most LEOs are unionized, channeling dues to Democrats.


125 posted on 02/20/2022 7:58:29 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Kevmo
San Jose, CA

I think I see the problem here.

126 posted on 02/20/2022 8:00:10 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Uncle Miltie

I think one has to look at who/how LE is empowered, frankly. If LE is controlled by city government, then yes they are very often far more concerned about keeping their own nests feathered and willing to enforce extra-legal commands from their leftist city mayors, etc.

I look at entities like county sheriffs, etc. as being more responsive to freedom and citizens because they aren’t beholding to city managers, mayors, councils or the like. The Sheriff is elected by the citizenry. I’d far more trust a deputy from that department than I would some LEO being leashed like a lap dog by some puke leftist Mayor like Lori Lightfoot.


127 posted on 02/20/2022 8:01:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RandFan

All positions of authority in the west will follow orders from the state more than not

That’s a fact


128 posted on 02/20/2022 8:04:16 AM PST by wardaddy (1-20-21 if ever was a day needed a reckoning settled with blood....I'm with Bannon)
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To: CodeToad

But could not be the problem that finding dedicated LEOs is hard to do. Haven’t the leaders reduced qualifications to accept more incompetent people, people with psychotic problems and those who only want the power?


129 posted on 02/20/2022 8:06:48 AM PST by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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To: JayAr36

Finding LEO candidates isn’t hard at all. Lots of people want to be a cop.

Finding normal people with good skills is the trick.

Unfortunately, candidates meet cops, trainers, and others who coach them on what their points of view need to be to answer interviews and psych evals properly to get hired. There are also groups of criminal types that try to get their people hired in as well.


130 posted on 02/20/2022 8:10:37 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

So there is no hope?


131 posted on 02/20/2022 8:14:09 AM PST by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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To: JayAr36

Of course, there is no hope.

If we already have lots of good cops, and we won’t be getting any more than we have now, things can only get worse. We already see all city cops being useless, half the Sheriff departments useless, and all federal agencies are terribly corrupt. Toss in a military that is already fighting the intelligence agencies, with the CIA and the NSA corrupted to the core.

We still have plenty of good government resources on our side, but this doesn’t end by asking, voting, or protesting.


132 posted on 02/20/2022 8:20:33 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: GranTorino
The only function of police is to protect criminals from the population

It may not have started out that way, but it most certainly has devolved to that....even to those criminals wearing badges.

133 posted on 02/20/2022 8:23:25 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: CodeToad

I see some movement in the right direction but it is slow and at this time a confused, unorganized, movement. hard to tell the direction we are going at this time because all the bad guys are in the news.

Hate to see this country fail.


134 posted on 02/20/2022 8:29:20 AM PST by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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To: fatman6502002

“most police officers don’t give a shit about their oaths to the Constitution and will side with elected tyrants for money.”

I got another red pill the other day when I read that the police are not there to protect you, they are there to protect the criminals from you. Makes a lot of sense when you think about it.


135 posted on 02/20/2022 8:54:41 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: Gaffer

“I look at entities like county sheriffs, etc. as being more responsive to freedom and citizens because they aren’t beholding to city managers, mayors, councils or the like. The Sheriff is elected by the citizenry.”

I would like to believe that, but in several of the Jan 6 protester’s arrest pictures there were sheriff’s deputies standing right there with the FBI or slightly in the background. Our local sheriff (and DA), in a very overall conservative area, have been campaigning against constitutional carry. Of course both retiring this year.


136 posted on 02/20/2022 8:58:44 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: suthener

I really don’t know if they were Sheriffs’ deputies or US Marshals or whoever. It was hard to tell with all of them being dressed up like the Trump-supporters they were playing to be.


137 posted on 02/20/2022 9:00:23 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RandFan
Anybody remember this?

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

What kind of people do you think we have as cops?
138 posted on 02/20/2022 9:33:07 AM PST by fr_freak ( )
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To: Gaffer

“I really don’t know if they were Sheriffs’ deputies or US Marshals or whoever. It was hard to tell with all of them being dressed up like the Trump-supporters they were playing to be.”

Maybe I wasn’t clear; I’m talking about when the Jan 6 protesters were arrested at their homes.


139 posted on 02/20/2022 9:52:34 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: RandFan

“It’s not just the police though it’s the whole system like I said in the OP (prosecutors, judges etc). We’re seeing this kind of abuse with Jan 6 prosecutions.”


DC police are NOT municipal civilian police; likewise for the DC prosecutors and judges. There is also a fundamental difference between the federal RCMP & Capitol Police and your County Sheriff / city police officer. FBI et al . obviously agents of executive punitive enforcement.

Other than that, I’m generally avoiding this thread due to personal bias. But I agree in principle with the sentiment that if sworn officers cannot walk away in certain situations, they are automatically domestic enemies by choice.


140 posted on 02/20/2022 10:01:04 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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