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I do not think Putin will make a play for Kiev. That seems too high risk of NATO intervention. The other major military scenario involves a drive to the Dneiper; a repeat of Red Army offenses during January - March 19443. The Donbass is much more oriented to Russia as there I believe ethnic Russian make up the majority of the population.
1 posted on 01/28/2022 7:26:39 AM PST by C19fan
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War Porn


2 posted on 01/28/2022 7:29:55 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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How is fake American media and the children in the Biden regime going to spin this when NOTHING happens?


3 posted on 01/28/2022 7:42:01 AM PST by PGR88
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Our Commander in Cheesy needs a war.


4 posted on 01/28/2022 7:42:29 AM PST by dforest (Freaking insane world. )
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For Putin to achieve the Russian objectives in the Ukraine, it does not require a full scale, very bloody, blitzkrieg type invasion. The Russian objective is to reincorporate Russified/Orthodox areas of the eastern Ukraine. Putin does not wish to incur or induce many casualties or cause significant property damage. He would like to take those areas the way he took Crimea. Only a fool would rush in tanks over frozen ground into the teeth of a defense manned by committed soldiers armed with modern anti tank missiles and drones. More likely he will create civil disturbances, attack with well trained special forces behind the lines, establish air superiority, use air cavalry type units to open safe corridors and then send in the armor. Suspect it will be over very quickly. There won’t even be a pause in the gas deliveries to Germany.


5 posted on 01/28/2022 7:47:19 AM PST by allendale
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Likely has troops in plain cloths already in the Donbass controlled by Russian sympathizers, just as they did successfully before.

https://www.gfsis.org/maps/view/russian-military-forces

https://informnapalm.org/en/intelligence-data-on-1st-and-2nd-army-corps-of-russian-federation-in-occupied-donbas/


6 posted on 01/28/2022 7:47:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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LOL. Putin already invaded Ukraine. 8 years ago. They must be laughing hysterically in the Kremlin at how successful their gaslighting has been and how gullible westerners are.


7 posted on 01/28/2022 7:49:17 AM PST by lodi90
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War Porn from the UK Doily Male ...


8 posted on 01/28/2022 7:49:49 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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--- "...too high risk of NATO intervention...."

Europe -- that is, the European Union -- is a population of over 450 million and with a GDP something larger than the US. The Ukraine is not as yet a full NATO member, and has a population of about 44 million.

Close to 500 million Europeans "seem" to stand against Russia, a nation with about 165 million and a far smaller GDP that the EU.

What in the world is the Biden administration doing making so much war chatter about the Ukraine and Russia? Before any open hostilities. Whatever one's opinion is as to the motivation of the Biden regime, it is not "peace making." It is panic-making of some sort.

My wager is that it is for local consumption, in the "look over there" mode of sleight of hand. Too many other messes which need "look, a squirrel!" as their ploy.

12 posted on 01/28/2022 7:54:29 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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“strongman”

I learned several decades ago, that when a leader is referred to as a “strongman”, you’re not supposed to like him. It was my first inkling that news reports were not necessarily objective.


15 posted on 01/28/2022 8:11:22 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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The Russians need to make the Ukraines come to them.
They need to make the Ukraines be on the offensive.

Russia has 6 Divisions on the border.

Divide them up into 3 Corps, enter Ukraine and without fighting, just hold the troops at various ridiculous locations but well inside of Ukraine.

Then wait.

Don’t try to take Kiev. Don’t move into small cities and villages that are fortified.

Wait until the Ukrainians are pissed off enough and they’ll give up their positions to attack the Russians in meaningless locations in the countryside.

Then, the Russians have moved the Ukrainians out of their dug in positions.

Now, take whatever Corps the Ukrainians are not attacking as they can’t attack all three, and take Kiev.

That’s my plan.

For weeks the tension, for weeks the fear, for weeks Joe will poop himself as Russia just parks themselves inside and wait.


16 posted on 01/28/2022 8:25:02 AM PST by David Chase
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Ukraine needs to “prepare for impact”.


19 posted on 01/28/2022 8:35:11 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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Daily Mail seems to be hoping for the worst.


20 posted on 01/28/2022 8:37:19 AM PST by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer.)
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The Russian invasion narrative is as fake as the Russian collusion narrative was.

Even the Ukrainian President realizes it.

22 posted on 01/28/2022 9:17:28 AM PST by Kazan
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I bet the game here is to use media to capture the plight of refugees and civilian casualties. If Putin does go in wage war via YouTube and Twitter.


24 posted on 01/28/2022 9:24:38 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Putin isn’t going to sack Kiev. Why would anyone want that part of the country. The bread basket is in the south.

Some folks need to look at a map. They can take the eastern part of the country without breaking a sweat.

But, perhaps our government will learn about coups, and color revolutions. Our track record kind of sucks.


25 posted on 01/28/2022 6:12:14 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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