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Kel-Tec at Shot Show 2022: P15 Subcompact 9mm Pistol
AmmoLand ^ | January 24, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/27/2022 7:05:11 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Yardstick

Almost identical. I think the KelTec came first because I remember thinking “I would’ve bought the Ruger instead.”. I could be wrong...been years.


21 posted on 01/27/2022 8:20:02 AM PST by moovova
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To: moovova

You’re right, now that I think about it. The KelTec came first and then Ruger sort of took the design and refined it.


22 posted on 01/27/2022 8:23:41 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: moovova
There is a YouTube of a guy doing a 1000 round stress test on P-11 that is hilarious.

The P-11 is double action only and after 1000 rounds all 10 of his fingers are so tired he can barely finish the test.

I love mine tho. It's the perfect tool for the job on the cheap.

There are definitely much nicer weapons out there but they cost more than double and at those prices I would be forced to have more concern for my investment.

23 posted on 01/27/2022 8:32:50 AM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: Manic_Episode

I like KelTec...wish I had some more of their models. I really wanted the PMR-30, but I’m not sure if they ever got the issues worked out.


25 posted on 01/27/2022 10:55:13 AM PST by moovova
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Okay, now you've done it! I now must own a PMR-30 asap lol.

I've been thinking about a .22 handgun for a few years now with ammo prices the way they've been I could actually afford to shoot one at the range.

26 posted on 01/27/2022 11:14:33 AM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: bk1000

The japs built thousands of sub compacts, although, in the end, they turned out to be ineffective and a waste of money...


27 posted on 01/27/2022 11:30:07 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Man from Oz

Bought my Kel-Tec P-11 a year after they came out. Had some FTFs at first, then polished the feedramp, haven’t had a problem since (OK changed the recoil spring once), That’s almost 30 years and thousands of rounds (all types) of reliability.


28 posted on 01/27/2022 12:51:12 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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I didn’t mean to come off neg on Keltec. I have previously owned a couple Keltec pistols ( forgot model) and was told about the potential jamming issue from the dealer when they were purchased.

I like Keltec’ s innovative long gun products. I have kept a sub 2000 in my pickup door (fits perfect) for over 8 years now.

MFO


29 posted on 01/27/2022 2:02:37 PM PST by Man from Oz
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To: Manic_Episode

Be careful. Another Freeper was telling me that they bought one and it was a jamomatic. Confirmed what I’d been reading. But it’s been out for several years now. Surely they’ve ironed out the issues. The PMR-30 is 22 Magnum...with a 30 round magazine!


30 posted on 01/27/2022 5:03:20 PM PST by moovova
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To: FLT-bird
I had a Keltec P11.... Keltec is cheap plastic junk.

Reminds me of my experience. I had a Glock 26 - Glock is cheap plastic junk.

(The point being? Every gun owner has an opinion, and any time you hear "Every [fill-in-the-blank] is [fill-in-the-blank]!", you can safely ignore that opinion... ;>)

31 posted on 01/27/2022 5:09:32 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: Manic_Episode
Here’s the P-17 (.1 inch longer) side by side with the P-11.

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/kel-tec-p-17-vs-kel-tec-p-11

32 posted on 01/27/2022 11:29:29 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, though and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Man from Oz

No worries


33 posted on 01/29/2022 4:36:13 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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