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What I tell my patients who feel let down by getting Omicron despite three vax shots
NY Post ^ | 1/14/2022 | Marc Siegel, MD

Posted on 01/15/2022 8:42:25 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Many people who are vaccinated, boosted and had COVID before are getting it again — and they are furious. They no longer believe the doctors or the president. Several of my patients have come to me (via televisit) feeling I let them down by pushing them to get the vaccine and then the booster only to find themselves sick with Omicron.

What can I tell them?

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1 posted on 01/15/2022 8:42:25 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

You trusted the fraud Fauci.


2 posted on 01/15/2022 8:43:58 AM PST by Gahanna Bob
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To: marcusmaximus

What do I tell them?

STOP OBEYING PERSONAL DIRECTIVES FROM UNCONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT MANDATES!!!


3 posted on 01/15/2022 8:45:24 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of<p Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: marcusmaximus

Like the widows or widowers of dead spouses say: “Even though they died, it would have been much worse if they didn’t have the shot....”


4 posted on 01/15/2022 8:45:26 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: marcusmaximus

Now, they and Marc Siegel, MD tell us: The first vaccinations in history, meant to lower symptoms are not working!:


These vaccines were and are complete and total failures!!!

Pfizer’s CEO confirmed that reality this past week:

Meanwhile our current vaccines are basically worthless as per the Pfizer CEO!

Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer ‘Limited, If Any Protection’
townhall.com ^ | 1/11/2022 0900 hrs et | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 1/11/2022, 10:03:58 AM by rktman

Speaking during remarks to a J.P. Morgan healthcare conference this week, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla openly stated current vaccines the company developed for Wuhan coronavirus offer “limited, if any” protection against contracting current variants of the disease. He then encouraged booster shots.

The statement from Bourla comes as the Biden administration continues to justify vaccine mandates for federal workers, contractors and private businesses. The Supreme Court heard arguments about President Biden’s mandates for private companies and medical workers last week. A ruling is expected soon on the constitutionality of the mandates.

A number of people who have pointed out the waning efficacy of Pfizer’s vaccines, which Bourla touted last year as being “100 percent” effective against contracting or transmitting the virus, have been banned by social media companies.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com …

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/11/pfizer-ceo-our-vaccines-offer-little-protection-n2601670


Wall Street Journal 19/2022

Omicron Makes Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

“There is no evidence so far that vaccines are reducing infections from the fast-spreading variant. ... there have been mass Omicron outbreaks in heavily vaccinated populations, scientists are highly uncertain the existing vaccines can stop it from spreading. ... there should be sufficient evidence that the vaccine is efficacious in preventing serious infection and/or transmission.” For Omicron, there is as yet no such evidence. ...

The little data we have suggest the opposite. One preprint study found that after 30 days the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines no longer had any statistically significant positive effect against Omicron infection, and after 90 days, their effect went negative—i.e., vaccinated people were more susceptible to Omicron infection. Confirming this negative efficacy finding, data from Denmark and the Canadian province of Ontario indicate that vaccinated people have higher rates of Omicron infection than unvaccinated people.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-makes-bidens-vaccine-mandates-obsolete-covid-healthcare-osha-evidence-supreme-court-11641760009?mod=e2tw
tell us: The first vaccinations in history, meant to lower symptoms?

These vaccines were and are complete and total failures!!!

Pfizer’s CEO confirmed that reality this past week:

Meanwhile our current vaccines are basically worthless as per the Pfizer CEO!

Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer ‘Limited, If Any Protection’
townhall.com ^ | 1/11/2022 0900 hrs et | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 1/11/2022, 10:03:58 AM by rktman

Speaking during remarks to a J.P. Morgan healthcare conference this week, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla openly stated current vaccines the company developed for Wuhan coronavirus offer “limited, if any” protection against contracting current variants of the disease. He then encouraged booster shots.

The statement from Bourla comes as the Biden administration continues to justify vaccine mandates for federal workers, contractors and private businesses. The Supreme Court heard arguments about President Biden’s mandates for private companies and medical workers last week. A ruling is expected soon on the constitutionality of the mandates.

A number of people who have pointed out the waning efficacy of Pfizer’s vaccines, which Bourla touted last year as being “100 percent” effective against contracting or transmitting the virus, have been banned by social media companies.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com …

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/11/pfizer-ceo-our-vaccines-offer-little-protection-n2601670


Wall Street Journal 19/2022

Omicron Makes Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

“There is no evidence so far that vaccines are reducing infections from the fast-spreading variant. ... there have been mass Omicron outbreaks in heavily vaccinated populations, scientists are highly uncertain the existing vaccines can stop it from spreading. ... there should be sufficient evidence that the vaccine is efficacious in preventing serious infection and/or transmission.” For Omicron, there is as yet no such evidence. ...

The little data we have suggest the opposite. One preprint study found that after 30 days the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines no longer had any statistically significant positive effect against Omicron infection, and after 90 days, their effect went negative—i.e., vaccinated people were more susceptible to Omicron infection. Confirming this negative efficacy finding, data from Denmark and the Canadian province of Ontario indicate that vaccinated people have higher rates of Omicron infection than unvaccinated people.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-makes-bidens-vaccine-mandates-obsolete-covid-healthcare-osha-evidence-supreme-court-11641760009?mod=e2tw


5 posted on 01/15/2022 8:47:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Nietzsche: “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything the State has. It was stolen!”)
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To: marcusmaximus

He’s not giving them any answers.

He’s just in cover his butt mode.


6 posted on 01/15/2022 8:47:22 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: marcusmaximus

Uh, nobody FORCED you to take an unapproved medicine. AKA lethal injection.

😨😷🔬💉🐂💨💩💸


7 posted on 01/15/2022 8:47:39 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Gahanna Bob; marcusmaximus

“You screwed up....you trusted us.”


8 posted on 01/15/2022 8:49:00 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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9 posted on 01/15/2022 8:50:34 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

“You’ve been fed lies, and you believed those lies. Anything else you need to know?”


10 posted on 01/15/2022 8:52:09 AM PST by Restless
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To: marcusmaximus
Now this might be a vaccine worth mandating to certain groups in the name of public safety, but it’s several months away at a minimum.

Sounds to me like just another clueless Doctor. - Tom

11 posted on 01/15/2022 8:54:03 AM PST by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2022 - The Events, not us, are still in charge. )
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What can I tell them?

Wake up! Trust no one except God and Family. The Global Welfare State can only survive if everyone dies by 65…
12 posted on 01/15/2022 8:56:23 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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13 posted on 01/15/2022 8:56:59 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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What do I tell them?

Tell them you lied with the best intentions. Tell them you had to or lose your job.

AND you can tell them that they are not taking vaccines but treatments. Vaccines do NOT stop the spread: they prevent disease. Real vaccines do at least. Not these...


14 posted on 01/15/2022 8:58:37 AM PST by Adder (Proud member of the FJBLGB community: /s is implied where applicable.)
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From the article:

Dr. Kakoto Iwasaki, world-renowned Yale immunologist, told me that she is working on a vaccine to prevent infection altogether by blocking uptake in the nasal passages. Now this might be a vaccine worth mandating to certain groups in the name of public safety, but it’s several months away at a minimum.

So he’s only pro- “certain group” mandates.

15 posted on 01/15/2022 8:58:59 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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The doc should say:

“Stupid should hurt. You were stupid to believe me.”


16 posted on 01/15/2022 8:59:30 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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With all respect, what I would tell these poor unfortunates is: “PSYCH!!!”


17 posted on 01/15/2022 8:59:48 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: marcusmaximus

So you’re sick?
Well say there Bub, it’s scientific proven fact that without multi jabs, you would have been sicker!
Because science.


18 posted on 01/15/2022 9:01:19 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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It’s not really a vaccine IMHO. It’s more of a pre-treatment for when you do get COVID.


19 posted on 01/15/2022 9:02:21 AM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Vaccines have two essential purposes: to prevent spread and to decrease severity.

These shots have ONE objective: PREVENTION.

Per the FDA in June 2020, the FDA would expect that a COVID-19 vaccine would prevent disease or decrease its severity in at least 50% of people who are vaccinated.

This is where words become REALLY important. In the US, the basis of approval EUA and the only "approved" Vaccine, was for PREVENTION...NOT for decreased severity. Indeed, look at the actual FDA and Pfizer-BioNTech info.

Per the FDA's website,

On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.(emphasis added)

Per the Comernity Insert,

--------------------------- INDICATIONS AND USAGE----------------------------
COMIRNATY is a vaccine indicated for active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (1)(emphasis added>

Per the Summary Basis for Regulatory Action, under "Indication"

Active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (Emphasis added)

Clearly, the vaccine is for PREVENTION. Nothing else. All of the clinical trials (limited as they were) and statistical confidence intervals were focused on VE with regard to PREVENTION...not hospitalization, not ER visits, not fatalies, and not symptoms. Accordingly, THAT is the basis upon which approval and Efficacy should be based.

So let's examine the time-series of VE for these shots since authorization, keeping in mind the FDA benchmark of 50%. Remember, VE = the percentage reduction in infection rate in the test vs control groups.

Without making this a massive post, I'll concede that published VEs in various studies in 2021 were above 50%. At the same time, VE declined over time. In and of itself, this isn't too problematic - few things last forever. BUT, the rate of decay in VE didn't get much airtime. Indeed, by the end of July I did some modeling and it looked like VE would fall below 50% just 6 months after the second shot and become totally ineffective by 10 months. Further research in August showed VE during Delta falling to 66%.

Ruh roh.

As an important side note, all of this research is based on statistical analyses of data. They are NOT clinical trials. That is an important distinction, because 1) none of these shots underwent legitimate trials that examined long-term impacts that other approved vaccines underwent and 2) vaccines fail trials 59% of the time and take a median of 9 years. Therefore, we should have VERY LITTLE TOLERANCE for declining VE for these shots.

And now, with Omicron, we are seeing VE being zero in Norway and Denmark and of course the US.

Pleae note, at no point in this post have I declared that these shots have nanotechnology in them, make you glow, have the Mark of the Beast, or are part of some conspiracy. I'm playing the game of "science."

Therefore, if VE is now not only below 50% but at zero, and the benchmark was 50%, the EUAs and approvals should be yanked. Even if these elixirs lower symptoms, that's not the basis of approval...rules are there for a reason.

Finally, these "approved" shots have caused familial and societal strife, vective, unrest, unemployment, and brought us to a Constitutional "crisis" where three lawyers on SCOTUS thought it was peachy for OSHA to enact a mandate without congressional approval.

This doctor should say: our bad... If they don't not have VE above 50%, then they absolutely deserve ridicule and revocation.

/rant.

20 posted on 01/15/2022 9:06:54 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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