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EV batteries are often retired with substantial remaining capacity, so such "second life" applications have the potential to significantly increase their life-cycle Energy Rate of Return.

Their use in grid frequency stabilization applications is especially interesting as this is one of the situations in which battery storage is first reaching installed costs low enough to represent significant competition to gas peaker generation.

https://www.energy.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/495163/SIPS-2020_Executive-Summary-extract.pdf

1 posted on 01/04/2022 2:56:29 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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I hope Germany has a lot of Mexicans moving there. If so, they should have plenty jumper cables to get the lights back on…..


2 posted on 01/04/2022 4:17:02 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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This is a pretty good idea. Those batteries are still very usable and in that application may last a LOT longer than they did in automotive applications. Mercedes is planning for similar uses.


3 posted on 01/04/2022 4:20:32 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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Pretty clever seeming. Reminds me of reusing spent nuclear fuel.

I wonder if batteries eventually stabilize to a lower capacity, like say 50% of original, and then kind of stay there, or do they taper down to zero. IOW is there a plateau or a slope.


4 posted on 01/04/2022 4:31:56 AM PST by Yardstick
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...their low cost is an advantage over using brand new devices...

Audi prolly pay folks to take the batteries rather than pay a green fee at the landfill


5 posted on 01/04/2022 4:33:11 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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4.5MWH is a lot of batteries.

But the concept is hardly new. The home-made Electric Bike and ‘power-wall’ builders have been reconfiguring and repurposing E-car battery packs for years.


6 posted on 01/04/2022 4:33:17 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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Which means that German Audi owners are spendthrifts who’ll buy a new battery and discard the old one while it still has substantial (80%) remaining usable capacity.


8 posted on 01/04/2022 7:48:15 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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