Old thread I know but what is so ugly about it? I don't get it. Looks good to me.
Posted on 01/01/2022 9:38:38 PM PST by Paul R.
1. Legal full auto ownership only applies to guns made before 1987. The FN P90 you showed was invented well after; it is illegal for a civilian to own. (Were it legal, I’d own one.)
2. I spoke of pistol caliber carbines in general, not just of 9mm. Your “alternative” is a pistol round, interesting only insofar as it is optimized for full auto use, and subsequently uninteresting because the gun optimized for it is illegal for civilian ownership. The 5.7 pistol is only seriously considered if the operator has a P90 as primary; few would seriously use it on its own. The PS90 (of note normally built with a >16” barrel) is a stunted & overgrown version of the laudable P90; if you’re going to have a semiautomatic that size, feed it serious ammunition (.223Rem or .300BLK at minimum).
In colloquial discussion, people use the term “firearm” in ways broader than 26 USC 5845. Yes I am aware of the variations of the legal definitions of “firearm” (having written opinions on applicability of NY weapons laws which are used by police as guidance), but do not expect most others to know and follow them exactly. I doubt your grasp of such laws, considering your apparent ignorance of 922(o).
I politely welcome any correction of misinformation.
A pistol is used to fight your way back to the rifle you shouldn’t have left.
When you reach that rifle, it shouldn’t be firing the same paltry ammo.
M1 does have “Cool Factor!”
So your a lawyer?
Rather than trusting my own ciphering and gazintas or that of fellow posters, I would offer a calculator like this: GunData.Org ballistic calculator.
Does that matter?
Silencers are illegal in my state.
And the judiciary has become an enemy of "We the People"
22 mag is a pretty good round but it has limits. Yesterday I seen a sounder of hogs coming down a draw and got ahead of them and waited for them to cross the road. I was positioned about 30 yards from where I expected them to cross. Still in the truck and had a 8 3/8ths Model 48 S&W laying across the mirror. First hog crossed where I expected but went across so fast I didn’t get a shot. Three more started across about 20 yards farther down and one stopped just long enough for me to put a Hornady Gold Dot 40 grain in it’s chest and it squealed and took off. Two more came across and the first one stopped where the other was shot and looked down the draw, it received one in the chest also. I came back by about 2 hours later after it warmed up and found the first hog about 30 years from where it was shot and the second one about 80 yards past it, both dead. I’ve taken several hogs and a bunch of Coyotes with this pistol with some out to 100 yards. I’m a big fan of the 22 mag. Both of the hogs weighed about 125 to 150 lbs.
People get squirrely and get shot all the time. Some folks just ain’t very bright.
Your 22 is working, how many mad dogs are around?
I had to do similar years ago here. Had strays running feral.
22LR rifle worked when needed, but I’d grab the 556 when the pack was seen at range- so much more bang=floppiness than the running away with a 22LR hole in the lungs...
DRT is better than fido running home to mamma and children then ‘splaining to the deputy as to why loving family doggie was shot in the first place. DRT= SSS.
Anyway. Use what you have, pick what you want, have at it, with care.
2 of 2 kills @ 50 yards with a .22 magnum pistol is pretty darn good shooting!
Anyway, good info. I don’t recall how much energy delivered the 22 Magnum carbine would have (will have to look up again), and wound volume is limited, but with that scope on it, it might be just the thing for coyotes, as they tend to be at longer range (80-100 yards) and if one runs off and dies a few minutes later, no owner is going to accost me later.
No gun shop near me has .22 Mag ammo in stock - so that works against one of my major “preferences”, however.
Our local shop got in a bunch of Hornady ammo and i bought several boxes, normally I shoot CCI. I’m not recommending a 22 mag for hog hunting but in this case I don’t care if they go down or not, in fact I’d just as soon they run off and die so I don’t have to haul them off.
Back in the 70’s when the price of hides were good I made a lot of supplemental income from coyotes, bob cat’s and fox. My old Marlin 22 mag paid for itself several times over. A few years ago I got a 17 WSM and it’s taken quite a few yotes and several pig’s. With that little round you need to head shoot the hog’s. That would have been the perfect round back in the 70’s, very little pelt damage.
I have a PC9 with a 50 round “boom stick”. Also takes Glock mags so it pairs well with my Glock 19.
Also have two Taurus public defenders one loaded with 000 buckshot and the other with #6 birdshot.
Well prepared in the home defense department.
Old thread I know but what is so ugly about it? I don't get it. Looks good to me.
That and I really appreciate 9mm for being affordable, effective, easy to shoot and so common and obtainable.
Cheers!
.45 caliber Hi Point carbine. Inexpensive, ten shots per, accurate out to 100 yards, big bullet slow flying, hits hard but will not zoom off for a mile if you miss.
Depending on 9mm rifles it should be more than capable for a dog. I’d suggest something AK in 9mm if you’re looking for carabine specifically
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