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There Is No Covid Science
Jan 1, 2022 | fnu lnu

Posted on 01/01/2022 1:27:34 PM PST by FNU LNU

REASON: The data has been corrupted from the beginning because of counting sickenesses, hospitalizations, and deaths WITH Covid and those FROM Covid.

Anthony Fauci, Dec. 31. 2021, admitted conflating such data on MSNBC:

But the other important thing is that if you look at the children who are hospitalized, many of them are hospitalized with COVID as opposed to or because of COVID. And what we mean by that—if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So, it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, hospitalized with COVID, as opposed to because of COVID.

Here is a link to a YouTube clip of Fauci saying this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjZvgq460P4&t=40s

Although Fauci is discussing only childhood cases in this quote, the same procedure has taken place from the beginning with all age groups.

Based on CDC numbers in August (2020) only 6% of all deaths attributed to COVID-19 were instances where the only factor in the individual’s death was due to COVI9-19, yet many sources are reporting many sicknesses, hospitalizations, and deaths are Covid deaths, when perhaps 94% of them are not! This mixing of data is why I say there is no Covid “Science” based on this data. Following conclusions based on it is not “following the science.”

The week these numbers were released, 153,504 deaths were reportedly died with Covid. 6% of those, 9,210 cases, actually died from or because of Covid. The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses and the overwhelming majority was of very advanced age.


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1 posted on 01/01/2022 1:27:34 PM PST by FNU LNU
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To: FNU LNU
And if you do not mind a more through analysis:

2. CDC Covid-19 case and death criteria

The broad criteria for listing Covid-19 as the presumed cause of death impugns the credibility of the numbers of claimed Covid-19 deaths.

Note also that the number of Covid-19 deaths are likely inflated due to the broad minimal criteria of the CDC in 2020 for assigning Covid-19 as the probable cause, which need to only meet Clinical Criteria and Epidemiologic Linkage without confirmatory or presumptive Laboratory Evidence. (However, under the 2021 criteria the latter presumptive lab evidence can supplant the other two as qualification for a presumed Covid case and thus death. Yet again, Vital Records Criteria alone will suffice, which is a “death certificate that lists COVID-19 disease or SARS-CoV-2 or an equivalent term as an underlying cause of death or a significant condition contributing to death.”) .

Under the original (April 2020 to August 5, 2020) broad minimal criteria of the CDC in 2020 for assigning Covid-19 as the probable cause of death, a case can be listed as Covid death on the basis of (under “Clinical Criteria”) as little as a headache and subjective fever, or just a cough or shortness of breath and which lack a more likely diagnosis than Covid-19. Along with (under “Epidemiologic Linkage)” being part of an exposed risk community (areas or locations of high transmission rates), or having had close contact (being within 6 feet for at least 15 minutes over the course of 24 hours) with a probable case of COVID-19.

The criteria version (there are three so far) prior to 8-5-2020 allowed for simply having having traveled to or lived in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of Covid-19), while the 8-5-2020 version added 4 more symptoms or conditions to its list (making it 17) under clinical criteria which require one or two for qualification (in the absence of a more likely diagnosis”).

In 2021, in implicit further recognition and or admission that the criteria had been too broad (and with a new president beginning vaccination developed underTrump), the CDC tightened up its Clinical Criteria from simply having as little as a cough or shortness of breath (in the absence of a more likely diagnosis”) to prefacing it as “Acute onset or worsening of ...” such, while expanding the list of symptoms or conditions to 21 under Clinical Criteria.

Moreover, regarding vital records criteria noted above, since a Probable case is one that “Meets clinical criteria AND epidemiologic linkage with no confirmatory or presumptive laboratory evidence for SARS-CoV-2,” OR Meets presumptive laboratory evidence, OR Meets vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory evidence for SARS-CoV-2,” then since the latter alone suffices as criteria for counting a death as due to Covid, then it presumes that the official assigning Covid-19 as the cause has at least followed the aforementioned CDC criteria for determining if a person had Covid-19. And yet it is far from certain that Covid-19 was the actual cause.

In addition, “meets presumptive laboratory evidence” also is a sole condition for assigning Covid-19 as the cause of death, and which means “Detection of SARS-CoV-2 specific antigen in a post-mortem obtained respiratory swab or clinical specimen using a diagnostic test performed by a CLIA-certified provider.”

What also would qualify as a Covid-19 positive case is those who went to a hospital for something entirely unrelated to that virus, but who tested positive as a result of routine testing. And which Dr. Fauci affirmed results in over counting of cases: "What we mean by that is that if a child goes in the hospital they automatically get tested for COVID and they get counted as a COVID hospitalized individual, when in fact they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it's over counting the number of children who are 'hospitalized' with COVID as opposed to because of COVID."

Note that the CDC states people can continue to test positive for COVID-19 for up to 3 months after diagnosis,” for as the CDC further affirms, “patients who have recovered from COVID-19 can continue to have detectable SARS-CoV-2 RNA in upper respiratory specimens for up to 3 months after illness onset. after being infected,” which is long after they were infectious. Yet for some time the CDC was conflating viral and antibody tests, combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus.

Therefore contrary to what at least one liberal “fact checker” entity asserts, [2] there have been changes in how the CDC is counting COVID-19 deaths, as preceding research substantiates. Also, before and after (a new presidential administration as well as) vaccination began then some totals of Covid-assigned deaths were significantly revised downward after further consideration.

Moreover, as USA Today confirmed,

Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it's considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases.”

Likewise, FEMA provides funding for COVID-19 funeral cases, awarding more than $447 million as June 29, 2021, at which time the agency announced a new policy that “provides applicants, as well as medical authorities, coroners and jurisdictions, flexibility to attribute a death to COVID-19” that occurred that occurred between Jan. 20 and May 16, 2020, “without amending the death certificate. Applicants who incurred COVID-19-related funeral expenses between Jan. 20 and May 16, 2020, will be able to submit a death certificate that does not attribute the death to COVID-19 along with a signed statement from the certifying official listed on the death certificate, coroner, or medical examiner linking the death to COVID-19.”

As of 12–05-21, for over 5% of reported COVID-19 deaths, that virus was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate, and “for deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.” While this does not necessarily mean the virus was not the leading contributor in the other 94% of the deaths, and it certainly does not mean it was the leading contributor in all the other 94% of these deaths. The liberally biased politifact.com web site, in correcting the erroneous Aug. 31, 2020 claim that the CDC decreased the number of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. from 153,504 to 9,210 based upon the CDC figure of all but 6% of Covid-19 death listed comorbidities, states that, “The vast majority of coronavirus-related deaths occur in patients who have other conditions, which are also listed on their death certificates, but that doesn’t mean COVID-19 was not a factor in their deaths. The CDC considers the underlying cause of death as "the condition that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person’s death," Jeff Lancashire, acting associate director for communications at the NCHS told us.” However, being “a factor” does not make it the cause, for there is a difference between a condition coinciding with or contributing to an event versus being the cause of it, and while Covid-19 can certainly be the condition that pushes a person over the edge, yet unlike something like HIV or Ebola which typically (at least without intervention) can slay otherwise healthy persons, the condition that began the chain of events in so many Covid-assigned death can be those which would have soon resulted in the death of the person at issue anyway. TOC^

2 posted on 01/01/2022 1:39:29 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: FNU LNU
There's no accurate test for Covid.

FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else

FDA openly admits that the infamous PCR test for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) was developed with what appears to be genetic material from a common cold virus.

COVID PCR Test Useless Says Report By 22 Highly Qualified Specialists

One FAKE PCR ‘Test’ to rule us all. How the CDC/FDA/NIH and World Health Organization made themselves gods.

The COVID-19 Variant Fraud – Why They Won’t Tell You Which Variant You Are Infected With

It looks like Israel has almost completely stopped calling the flu 'Covid'.

Now if they would just stop falsely claiming those injured by the Covid 'vaccines' are Delta patients, or 'Covid patients' or whatever, that would be great.

Whistleblower! Nurse DESTROYS "Delta" Narrative, VACCINATED Patients Fill Hospital (transcript and 15 minute video, important information for you and your family)

3 posted on 01/01/2022 1:39:35 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: daniel1212

Thanks!


4 posted on 01/01/2022 1:41:46 PM PST by FNU LNU ( )
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To: FNU LNU
There were no actual clinical trials for any of the shots. The clinical trials began once the first shot was publicly administered, and they continue with each, and every person who is injected, including the booster shots.

That's why the CDC claims it will take Pfizer 75 years to comply with the release of their data. They don't have any actual data. They're collecting it now.

5 posted on 01/01/2022 1:47:26 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: FNU LNU

Can it be proven that the jab has saved one life?


6 posted on 01/01/2022 1:55:38 PM PST by Leep (Freedom: "What's the big deal" -joe biden)
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To: Leep

Great question! I would like to know this also. There is no real data for 2 darn years and yet the whole world is in pandemic mode. It is insane.


7 posted on 01/01/2022 3:43:00 PM PST by JoJo354 (JUST SAY NO to covid vaxx!)
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To: JoJo354

Finally.
I’ve been saying that for awhile and you are the first person to respond.
It’s like people are in a fog?


8 posted on 01/01/2022 3:50:40 PM PST by Leep (Freedom: "What's the big deal" -joe biden)
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To: Leep

I know! I have been trying to keep up with all this covid craziness and I did finally say hey! This whole thing is just crazy why aren’t more people just flat out saying so? Where are our Reps and senators calling out Fauci and the CDC and the FDA?


9 posted on 01/01/2022 4:30:29 PM PST by JoJo354 (JUST SAY NO to covid vaxx!)
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To: FNU LNU

If playing grab-ass is science, then they have science.


10 posted on 01/01/2022 5:32:56 PM PST by Migraine
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To: JoJo354

It’s almost like the whole thing is a sham?
Not that there aren’t conservatives among the people. Most sensible people don’t need politicians to solve their problems.
If they did the job they are supposed to do and stop interfering and trying to control everyone.
During Katrina folks didn’t wait for the government to clear fallen trees. Regular folks went out with their chainsaws and got the job done.

Our current stock of politicians are more interested in..letting illegals invade our country..insider trading..underage prostitutes..gay “marriage”..abortion..
pointless wars..transgenderism...
Everything that is actually against,or makes a mockery of, humanity.
Not to mention freedom.
It has nothing to do with what the people want.


11 posted on 01/02/2022 6:15:54 AM PST by Leep (Freedom: "What's the big deal" -joe biden)
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To: FNU LNU

IMO, their ‘science’ is having a terrible time keeping up with the hysteria of social justice media and the inability of this administration to even decide how to keep Biden from crapping his pants on TV let alone decide what they need/want to do to stop this virus...


12 posted on 01/02/2022 6:19:31 AM PST by Gaffer
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