But the understanding at the time the Constitution was that a nbc had both parents who were citizens. This was based on a law book whose name I cannot remember, which the Founders and other educated men studied. Both parents. The law that stopped women from automatically gaining US citizenship when they married a US citizen changed long, long ago, I don’t know when.
So if Congress wants to change that law and make women automatically citizens when they marry a US citizen, they can do that (terrible idea of course). Otherwise, until then, NBC means what it always has - born on the soil, to two parents who are citizens.
Parents can of course be naturalized before the child is born, but a naturalized citizen cannot be president.
Citizenship at the time the Constitution was adopted was Patriarchal, there was no such thing as being born to one parent who was a citizen and one who wasn’t because all children born to a citizen father were automatically born to a citizen mother (except perhaps for bastards because there was no marriage), the Constitution can’t be said to exclude someone for something that wasn’t even conceived of at the time it was written.
I think we need to add citizenship laws and definitions to the Constitution.
I’d be happy to exclude children with one non-citizen parent from offices like the President, I’m generally in favor of far more restrictions on citizenship and immigration.
I want to exclude all naturalized citizens from voting, holding any office, or having any government job.
I also want to exclude children of immigrants from those things unless one of their parents was born here.
But we need to change the Constitution to do those things and I don’t believe binding ourselves to a restrictive version of NBC that was not conceived of or part of the original intent of the Constitution while the enemy foists total non-citizens on us is conducive to victory.
I believe it was Vattel's "Law of Nations".
Dag nabbit, I’ve got to stop clicking “Post” before I’m finished adding stuff. LOL Sorry about that, LJ. :-)
One other thing that a lot of the skeptics about O’Butthead’s birth and citizenship overlooked (or forgot about, or hadn’t been told about) was that, even IF he was actually born in Hawaii instead of Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, his Commie mama Stanley Ann Dunham was TOO YOUNG by law to confer birthright citizenship upon him. The law at that time clearly stated that a woman had to be 21 to be able to do that. Stanley Ann was only 19-1/2.
Vattel; ‘The Law of Nations.’
1758, Emirich de Vattel
(Not my blog!!!)
This is a discussion of Vattel’s law of nations. Geo. Washington borrowed the book from The Society Library in NY in 1879 and did not return it.
https://costonscomplaint.blogspot.com/2010/04/george-washington-fails-to-return.html
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
A very important provision in that essay is the interpretation of a natural born citizen:
THE LAW OF NATIONS
212. Citizens and Nations
“The citizens are the members of the civil society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of citizens, THOSE CHILDREN NATURALLY FOLLOW THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR FATHERS, and served to all of their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, IN CONSEQUENCE OF WHAT IT OWES TO ITS OWN PRESERVATION; and it is presumed as matter, that each citizen, on entering into society; reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. THE COUNTRY OF THE FATHER IS THEREFORE THAT OF THE CHILDREN; and these become true citizens merely by tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming of the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe society in which they were born. I SAY IN THAT ORDER TO BE OF THE COUNTRY, IT IS NECESSARY THAT A PERSON BE BORN OF A FATHER WHO IS A CITIZEN, IF HE IS BORN THERE OF A FOREIGNER, IT WILL BE ONLY THE PLACE OF HIS BIRTH, AND NOT HIS COUNTRY.”
Are we or are we not a constitutional republic? It is time that we stand up and demand that our elected representatives address whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications that our founding fathers outlined in Article II Section I.”
Kammy Harris Is not a natural born citizen, she lived in Berkey for a 6-7 years, when INS was getting ready to expel her mother for overstaying her Student Visa, Her mother Moved to Canada where she stayed until she graduated. She Is NOT qualified to be VP let alone President. She IS a citizen of Jamaica Through her father and by their law of descent. Let her run for office there.