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To: DugwayDuke
DD, Your: "I’m really posting about the misinformation and dishonest arguments made attacking the vaccines. Do you realize that the arguments made against these vaccines are as old as vaccines themselves? Why do vaccines generate such antipathy when they have done so much to prevent illnesses and deaths?"

Sorry you were pinged here, but Aw Doug, look at you! Trying to argue that opposition to a Dangerous group of Under Researched and Incompletely Trialed "vaccines" is the Same as Opposition to ALL vaccines! You know very well that is not the case, it is just a cheap rhetorical trick used to try and denigrate the intelligence of people here who point out the truth. (Fallacy; True in part extended to true in all!)

As far as misinformation I would point to the vaccine manufacturers who Deliberately Withheld Information about the Dangers of their Vaccine From the public and Argued that they were perfectly safe!! (And I think I previously posted this to you on a different earlier thread!)

To avoid going over previously discussed material, I would refer you to this excellent earlier post by Easy St:

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EasySt post 727

Snip...."Pfizer told the FDA its mRNA covid vaccines can cause “enhanced disease” by making covid worse

Also to the shock of many observers who are just now digging into this smoking gun document, Pfizer told the FDA under “Safety concerns” (section 3.1.2) that its mRNA injection could cause, “Vaccine-Associated Enhanced Disease (VAED), including Vaccine-associated Enhanced Respiratory Disease (VAERD).” ...Snip....

(You can also see Fauci Discussing the very same thing here!: https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1470455120513142792)

The summary of EasySt's post is:

"This confidential document — just the first of thousands yet to be released — reveals two critical things:

1) The FDA committed criminal fraud and misrepresentation in approving mRNA vaccines as “safe and effective.” This means top FDA decision makers must now face arrest and criminal prosecution.

2) The mRNA vaccine was known by Pfizer to be deadly even in its first three months of emergency use. This means Pfizer is also complicit in the continued deaths of innocent victims, as Pfizer itself should have pulled its deadly vaccine and halted all sales and distribution."

This means the FDA knew the vaccine could sicken and kill patients who were later infected with covid."

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What Pfizer did was the very definition of the " misinformation and dishonest arguments" you pretend to be pointing out. Make certain you read the post, which contains the number of deaths in the first 90 days of use of their "vaccine", 1,223 deaths. We want you to be both aware of the truth and responsible for your sadly inaccurate statements regarding the Covid vaccine's safety.

1,529 posted on 12/14/2021 9:01:42 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Pete from Shawnee Mission wrote: “Sorry you were pinged here, but Aw Doug, look at you! Trying to argue that opposition to a Dangerous group of Under Researched and Incompletely Trialed “vaccines” is the Same as Opposition to ALL vaccines! You know very well that is not the case, it is just a cheap rhetorical trick used to try and denigrate the intelligence of people here who point out the truth. (Fallacy; True in part extended to true in all!)”

IOW, unless a vaccine is completely risk free, then it should not be distributed?

BTW, that ‘insufficient testing’ is a common argument made against almost all vaccines in history. When over 800,000 COVID deaths have been recorded, how much more testing, how many more deaths would be acceptable to you? Should we test for another five years and suffer another million or more deaths?


1,535 posted on 12/14/2021 9:37:10 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

FRiend, please don’t feed the troll.


1,580 posted on 12/14/2021 11:55:04 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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