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Diplomat’s 1895 Letter Confesses to Assassination of Korean Queen
The Asahi Shimbun ^ | November 21, 2021 | Yasuji Nagai

Posted on 11/23/2021 1:55:03 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 11/23/2021 1:55:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 11/23/2021 2:09:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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“However, the Daewongun’s Chinese poems, as shown in the recently uncovered letters written by Horiguchi, paint an entirely different picture,” Kim said. “People associated with the assassination, including Horiguchi, insisted after the incident that the Daewongun was the ringleader of the killing. These letters are important evidence in proving that their story was fiction.”

I’m sure this is the first and last time in history that it will be found the history doesn’t match the facts. After all, we have it on good authority that elites never act to conceal their intent, and that every case where such is alleged is merely a baseless conspiracy theory.

Oh, and furthermore, Russia! Russia! Russia!, and Hunter’s laptop was hacked, and Kyle crossed state lines with an illegal gun to murder black people, Jan 6th was worse than the civil war, Epstein committed suicide, TWA800 crashed because of a mechanical failure, and Ron Brown’s plane went down due to the worst storm in a decade.


3 posted on 11/23/2021 2:15:42 PM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: nickcarraway
Although most people do not remember or understand this was the start of WWII Pacific Theater.

Japan and their war against the US and the UK was going to happen from this moment. Although an argument can be made for 1874 when Japan sized Okinawa but I will not go into that here.

Japan was determined to make the Pacific a Japanese lake which would mean taking over most of Asia and the west coast of the Americas.

Which was why they were establishing colonies up and down the coast and why, when WWII started those countries either confined or expelled the Japanese.

The Japanese were excessively cruel to their conquered, even shocking the Nazis who were no shrinking violets. They were quite interested in biological warfare and had conducted several experiments with weaponizing the plague. These experiments were successful and a plan to hit the US with it was planed for September of 1945. Code named Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night it would have spread the bacteria (Yersinia pestis) known to have caused the five greatest epidemics in human history during a time when the world was already in disarray.

The fact that WWII in Europe had pushed the US into creating the atomic bomb was the only thing that prevented it.

History you don't learn in school.

4 posted on 11/23/2021 2:39:47 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Interesting.


5 posted on 11/23/2021 2:44:08 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

My father served in the Pacific (USMC) as did my uncle (also USMC)

He stated unequivocally that the “bomb” saved hundreds of thousands (or more) lives. Without the bomb an invasion of Japan would have had to take place. Uncountable casualties.

Who should be blamed for the civilian deaths from the bomb?
The Japanese.


6 posted on 11/23/2021 3:23:16 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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I want to say that I am not Anti-Japan as it exists now. I lived there, I like them as a people and as a culture. They have taken nicely to civilization.

But Imperial Japan was a real horror show.

You can go and read the notes from Unit 731 and you will find stuff that will haunt your dreams for the rest of your life.

There is a reason why their neighbors hate them and the reasons are valid. And likely will take another hundred years for those memories to go away.

7 posted on 11/23/2021 3:32:16 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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Japan in its military dictatorship phase was brutal, that is for sure.

1. Japan was late (by 30 years) to the forcing of concessions on China. The Europeans were the first to demand concessions from China, and that process was not ignored by Japan.

2. Japan was late to establishing colonies in Asia. Again Japan was preceded in that by the Europeans and the U.S., and again Japan observed that and as Japan industrialized came to see it as European and American blocking actions against a modernizing Japan. In Southeast Asia the Europeans even admitted they were blocking recently industrializing Japan.

3. Looking out from Japan in WWI (when they were on our side) they saw an Asia largely occupied by the Europeans and Americans, from India all through Southeast Asia, up through the Philippines and the coast of China.

While HOW Japan came to deal and react to 1.,2. and 3. above is the subject of good criticism. That they did react to all that was not strange, even from a general Asian perspective. From a general Asian perspective the suddenly outward looking Japanese Empire was following on and reacting to the western colonization of so much of Asia.


8 posted on 11/23/2021 4:00:41 PM PST by Wuli
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To: nickcarraway

I think the atomic bombs probably saved more Japanese than American lives.


9 posted on 11/23/2021 4:12:02 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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I strongly suggest that you go read the Japanese records.

Happy nightmares.

10 posted on 11/23/2021 5:11:23 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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It did.

A conventional invasion of Japan where every Japanese down to the small children were indoctrinated into the idea that they must kill or die was going to be a horror.

A tour of Shuri Castle gives you an idea of how hard the war was going to become. It was leveled. In the Battle of Okinawa they were forcing Okinawan boys of fourteen onto the front lines.

How can you ask your men to shoot children?

How can you live with the casualties if you don't?

11 posted on 11/23/2021 5:21:31 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I have read them.

My comments are not specifically related to the incident in Korea or Korea-Japan relations in general, or the brutality of the Japanese military dictatorship. They are about the general conditions in Asia in the period when Japan was just about the only Asian nation modernizing and getting into real industrialization, which was also a period when so much of Asia was colonies occupied by western empires. Japanese were not the only Asians wondering at the time if the future of Asia was to be forever run by westerners. While WWII ended the Japanese adventures in empire building, it also began to lead to the end of western colonies in Asia as well. Had the latter not been true, there could have been a revival of some combination of Asian states to end western colonialism in Asia.


12 posted on 11/24/2021 8:42:16 AM PST by Wuli
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To: nickcarraway; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
This topic was posted 11/23/2021, thanks nickcarraway.
Sorry, I am a little late seeing this.

13 posted on 11/30/2021 11:28:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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It was the hidden swordsman on the Grassy Knoll............


14 posted on 11/30/2021 11:40:10 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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;^)

She was a victim of Male Supremacy! /s

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15 posted on 11/30/2021 11:59:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: nickcarraway
British travel writer Isabella Bird Bishop visited Korea at this time and met the monarchs. Later she relates the assassination...she tells this story related to her by local missionaries but she also viewed the devastation of areas when Japan fought Chinese troops who came in to help.

Missionaries usually get bad reputations by the atheistic press, but they usually know what is going on and are willing to report grass roots opinions and government atrocities.

The Japanese essentially made Korea their colony and were very repressive.

Ironically, Imperial Russia tried to defend the monarchs.

The Japanese Russian war a few years later not only was a precursor to World War II but was one of the causes of thr Russian revolution.

16 posted on 11/30/2021 5:39:54 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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Don’t forget, the Russians eventually caused the Japanese to surrender to the U.S.


17 posted on 11/30/2021 5:42:34 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I would be interested in your thoughts on some claims that the Japanese balloons found over rural areas in the western US (during WWII) did have toxic biological agents—but that they were ineffective because they were in remote areas.


18 posted on 11/30/2021 5:42:42 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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The fact that WWII in Europe had pushed the US into creating the atomic bomb was the only thing that prevented it.

What did the atomic bomb have to do with it?

19 posted on 11/30/2021 5:52:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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LOL.


20 posted on 11/30/2021 6:08:35 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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