China's 'Battle at Lake Changjin' Marching to North American, Australian Release [November 19]

Variety ^ | Nov. 10, 2011 | Rebecca Davis

[redgolum]

Victory is who holds the field after the fight in some views.

But it was a Phyric one at best.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Little Big Man was so unhistorical it was hysterical.

A good movie on how to show Hollywood movies can give the audience a fabricated view of history, and make you believe it.

[Red Badger]

It was a comedy......................

[Red Badger]

My favorite part is when Dustin Hoffman and his Lakota FRiend whom they hadn’t seen each other in several years, meet and the Lakota says “I have a wife and FOUR HORSES!”

Then Hoffman’s character says, “I have a horse,” The Lakota smirks, then Hoffman continues, “.. and FOUR WIVES!” .......................

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Yes it was comedy, but I’ve met lots of people who actually believe it to be true.

[Red Badger]

There actually was a Lakota named “Little Big Man” who was Crazy Horse’s lieutenant and held his arm as he died...............

[Red Badger]

And they all vote straight ticket Democrat, I bet.................

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

They were of definite democrat quality.

[Red Badger]

And I bet the believe the Russian Hoax, Global Warming and are all vaccinated.............................

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Who do you believe? In the movie with Victor Mature, has Little Big Man, in an army uniform, stabbing CH with a bayonet.

Other histories say a soldier stabbing CH.

In the book, ON THE BORDER WITH CROOK, Bourke says Crazy Horse pulled out two daggers, one made from a bayonet. Little Big man then jumped on CH’s back and grabbed his wrists to keep him from hurting anyone.
The soldier poked with his bayoneted rifle, and hit the door frame.

In the struggle Crazy Horse then stabbed himself with his own bayonet dagger.

Again, which story does one believe.

[Red Badger]

We will never know for certain until Jesus comes, and all things are known.

Some historians think it was a set-up by Little Big Man to eliminate Crazy Horse, so he could become the leader of the Lakota nation. Maybe. Maybe not.................

[Seruzawa]

As has been said, a few more victories like that and we will be defeated. Or something like that.

[D_Idaho]

Check out “Come and See”.

[sphinx]

There are a lot of great suggestions in this thread. I'll add one more: Conspiracy (2001), a made-for-tv movie about the Wannsee Conference. It's not a battle movie; it's 90 minutes of men, mostly in uniform but a few civilians, sitting around a table, talking. It is riveting. The entire cast is excellent. Kenneth Branagh (Reinhard Heydrich), Stanley Tucci (Adolf Eichman) and Colin Firth (Wilhelm Stuckart, the author of the Nuremberg race laws) give career performances.

[MrLucky1966]

I’ve never been interested in the ‘Hunger Games’ (but mincemeat pie is very good and underappreciated.)

Point taken, just had to say when I'm really sick, there are times I have wacky dreams but that dream was pretty cool. B-)

[Jamestown1630]

I remember having a rare and severe Summer ‘flu one year as a kid. From my bed, I could hear my Dad listening to a baseball game on the radio, and I’ve always loved the sound of a broadcast baseball game.

I hallucinated that day that Jesus was beside my bed, comforting me.

Go figure :-)

[Pilsner]

Omar Bradley carries the narrative through the film. It's the tension between the Patton and the Bradley point of view that gives the film its power. me

I once met a guy who said he was drafted into the Army in 1969, but for whatever reason was sent to Washington D.C., not Vietnam. While there he was assigned to appear outside the theater where Patton made it's D.C. premiere in 1970. Omar Bradley was among those who saw the movie that night, and the press asked him what he though of George C. Scott's portrayal of Patton. Bradley was not impressed. He said Scott was far too understated.

[sphinx]

That’s interesting. The only thing I’ve ever read that touches on that subject had to do with “The Speech.” The speech that George C. Scott delivers at the beginning of the film is much shorter — and much, much “tamer” — than the version(s) that Patton delivered to the troops. The real life versions are all a bit different because Patton gave The Speech numerous times to different units and spoke extemporaneously, but the gist was far more vulgar than what the filmmakers were willing to risk in 1970. Hollywood deliberately cleaned it up for the sake of ratings and so as not to offend audiences. How much of this may be been done consciously on other aspects of Patton’s behavior, I don’t know.

[SauronOfMordor]

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I hope Michael Caine is interviewed about this film. Caine is an interesting guy and, while I gather his politics are largely MovieWorld liberal, he is capable of being quite heterodox from time to time. As a young man, he was a working class yute with vaguely pro-communist views. Then he got called up for military service (1952-54), which is how he found himself sitting in a foxhole in Korea, behind a machine gun, watching Chinese human wave attacks roll up the hill towards him. Apparently he was in a couple of situations in which he gave himself up for dead. He altered his views somewhat, as he realized that there was something wrong with a system that had such complete contempt for human life.<<

I wonder if Caine’s experiences helped shape the final battle scene in Zulu:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1csr0dxalpI