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How an AP1000 Plant Is Changing the Nuclear Power Paradigm Through District Heating, Desalination
Power Mag ^ | 1 Nov 2021 | Sonal Patel

Posted on 11/01/2021 1:22:48 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Already remarkable for being the world’s second Westinghouse AP1000 reactor to be brought online, Shandong Nuclear Power Co.’s Haiyang nuclear power plant is pioneering two significant aspects of nuclear diversification in China: district heating and desalination.

In 2009, China only had 11 operational nuclear power reactors—three that used domestic technologies, two were Russian technology, four were French technologies, and the remainder are Canadian-designed. It now operates 50 units—a combined 50 GW. The heating project alone could translate to an “annual savings of about 6.62 million tons of standard coal,” it said. The company projects that by 2030, Haiyang and other “clean energy heating methods” could replace all coal-fired boilers on the Jiaodong Peninsula.

(Excerpt) Read more at powermag.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: desalination; energy; nuke
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Why China is eating our lunch.

The district heat appears to be a small pilot program but is worth watching.

Keeping the populace warm and manufacturing running... And freshwater to boot.

1 posted on 11/01/2021 1:22:48 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Pumping radioactive water to houses is a good idea?

(Just kidding. I know about the heat exchangers and primary and secondary loops)


2 posted on 11/01/2021 1:25:52 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Everything Woke turns to shit.” ~ President Donald Trump)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

https://www.westinghousenuclear.com/new-plants/ap1000-pwr


3 posted on 11/01/2021 1:26:40 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Of course it is. The put a phony early date on when it expires, knowing that it will likely be extended, as needed.


4 posted on 11/01/2021 1:29:25 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: DUMBGRUNT

wait, what? does this make China on the cutting edge of reducing gashouse emissions?


5 posted on 11/01/2021 1:30:39 PM PDT by stylin19a (when in doubt...empty the magazine)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The central planning CCP model is both an advantage and a disadvantage for China relative to the West. The advantage over democratic societies is that once the central committee makes a decision to go forward there is no drawn out period of environmental impact studies, public hearings, and lawsuits. These make nuclear power too expensive and risky to allow its use anymore in the West. The disadvantage of the central planning model is that often technical decisions are made for political reasons such as with Chernobyl in Ukraine that cut corners on safety to control cost.

If China can achieve energy indepence from oil and coal using nuclear they will leapfrog the West in terms of carbon reduction, standard of living, and cost of production very quickly.


6 posted on 11/01/2021 1:48:04 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: Dave Wright

As a wise fellow said 10 yrs ago on CNBC

China has central planning by scientists, engineers, and mathematicians, and the US has central planning by lawyers.
Neither is preferable, but by definition they win.


7 posted on 11/01/2021 1:50:09 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"Echoing similar agreements the country had sealed with major global nuclear technology vendors, SNPTC’s agreement with Westinghouse involved a major technology transfer agreement. One aspect involved collaboratively refining the AP1000 and developing a larger reactor based on the Westinghouse design, the “CAP1400,” for domestic use and export. For SNTPC, which in 2015 merged with China Power Investment Corp."

So, just like almost all other Western businesses, Westinghouse execs sold the crown jewels to the Chinese, who will now copy everything and eat their lunch.

How did Westinghouse get the export licenses for this technology?

8 posted on 11/01/2021 1:52:06 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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—”Westinghouse execs sold the crown jewels to the Chinese”

Well, yes but...
IIRC they made it out of Chapter 11 and separated from Toshiba.

Everyone knows this, and still, they cannot resist the siren’s song...An old Greek guy invented the wax in the ear trick thousand years ago.
I want to see if/how Apple escapes?
AAPL thinks they can claim they sent all their clothes to the cleaners and make a break cash in hand?

Methinks they will be taken to the cleaners.

Japan’s Transfer of Bullet Train Technology A Mistake. China, Of Course, Has Copied It

https://japan-forward.com/japans-transfer-of-bullet-train-technology-a-mistake-china-of-course-has-copied-it/


9 posted on 11/01/2021 2:39:05 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

All that was removed to save money to meet the central planners 15-20% per year growth mandates.


10 posted on 11/01/2021 3:05:59 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Why China is eating our lunch.”

Seriously, we know it’s because we worry too much about or environment, endangered lizards and global warming.

We are a no-risk country now.


11 posted on 11/01/2021 3:11:01 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

continuation of previous post.

And we’re miring ourselves down in the name of racial and cultural equality,


12 posted on 11/01/2021 3:13:41 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: DUMBGRUNT

China? Yes, they are eating our lunch.


13 posted on 11/01/2021 3:33:42 PM PDT by NetAddicted ( Just looki)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Why can’t we do something intelligent like that? (Are you listening, Newsom?)


14 posted on 11/01/2021 3:43:28 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: cymbeline

—”We are a no-risk country now.”

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Winston Churchill


15 posted on 11/01/2021 3:57:48 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Meanwhile, actual *demonstrated” technology like Brilliant Light Power’s (inaptly named IMO) named SunCell (tm) utilizing a Hydrino-producing reaction remains under-funded ... a Manhattan-style effort should be on-going with this tech ...


16 posted on 11/01/2021 5:16:21 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Siemens, too. They setup a plant in China to promote sales of their new high-speed train and as soon as their first model came off the assembly line their Chinese competitor released their new model.

An exact copy down to the millimeter.

17 posted on 11/01/2021 8:44:10 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

My understanding about Apple is that they keep key engineering pieces (like the CPUs and probably bus and memory controllers) in-house. All the rest is farmed out. So the Chinks can copy the rest but it won’t do them any good.


18 posted on 11/01/2021 8:47:12 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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—”they keep key engineering pieces (like the CPUs and probably bus and memory controllers) in-house”

I had a relative that did failure analysis of ICs.
They would remove a minuscule layer(etch) then photograph and study all the many circuits...

Now you just know the Chinese lead the world in this type of reverse engineering. And there are a billion of them so they can throw some hours on the project.


19 posted on 11/02/2021 7:42:33 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I believe the “thousand talents” program has been a big success.


20 posted on 11/02/2021 7:43:46 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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