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What Went Wrong? Gun Prop Experts on Alec Baldwin Disaster (Producer Baldwin hired non-union gun handlers)
Daily Beast ^ | 10/22/2021 | Cheyenne Roundtree Justin Rohrlich

Posted on 10/22/2021 10:26:23 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

The production of the upcoming western movie Rust came to a tragic halt on Thursday afternoon in New Mexico, after actor and producer Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm that resulted in the death of the film’s cinematographer.

Halyna Hutchins, 42, was reportedly struck in the stomach and was airlifted to the University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque, where she died, according to Deadline.

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“Rule number one, when you’re doing these rehearsals, the firearm, even though it has blanks, it’s never fired at anybody, the angles are always cheated,” Howell says. “Those angles always look to the viewer as though it’s directed at them, but it isn’t, it’s always aimed off. So, the actors train, train, train, and then when the armorer decides that rehearsal is fine and lets everybody know, then you go ahead. So, it’s very, very controlled—health and safety risk assessments before you get there, and everybody is aware when there are live firearms on the set firing blanks.”

“We never point that barrel at another actor, even if it’s a gun that has a block barrel, it’s just good training,” Hunter added. “If you don’t point a gun at another human, it won’t kill them. You’re never supposed to have live ammunition on the set, but just because there’s no live ammunition does not mean that something can get in the barrel of a gun and become a projectile.”

It is unclear if the gun was fired during a scene rehearsal or filming, but Hunter explained that the firearm should never be placed in the actor’s hand until the last possible minute.

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KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; baldwincontrol; baldwinscabs; banglist; bidenvoters; cheaplaborexpress; halynahutchins; joelsouza; newmexico; rust; scabs
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To: marcusmaximus

Wow...when was that written??


121 posted on 10/22/2021 11:59:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: dfwgator

But yours are Illogical


122 posted on 10/22/2021 11:59:51 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag, and that)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

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123 posted on 10/22/2021 12:01:25 PM PDT by hoe_cake
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Why are you so anxious to defend this guy. The same guy that encouraged people to “Stone Henry Hyde and his Family to Death!”

The guy has issues.


124 posted on 10/22/2021 12:01:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marcusmaximus

Union / non-union has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome.

Alec Baldwin pooched it. He apparently failed to (a) check the firearm loading prior to handling it, and (b) failed to follow the 4 common rules of firearm safety. Complete and utter negligence, if not actual recklessness.

Any fault is completely on him. And given his previous outbursts, he probably should have been background-checked and red-flagged.

Anyone else is an accessory to the fact.


125 posted on 10/22/2021 12:01:57 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: David Chase

Ouch!


126 posted on 10/22/2021 12:03:38 PM PDT by moovova (I'm dismayed that most of the world hates me for being non-vaxxed. Honest. No, really.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Dear Sir, you are particularly bitter. Freepers fling insults from time to time, but it is my opinion that you are overdoing it. Hugs. And eat a Snickers, Darlin’.


127 posted on 10/22/2021 12:03:43 PM PDT by hoe_cake
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To: hoe_cake

I am not bitter at all I just have a low tolerance for morons and idiots.


128 posted on 10/22/2021 12:05:10 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag, and that)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
You people have tried and convicted Baldwin without knowing any facts, no investigation. Lets just string him up based on his Politics and Bad Behavior.

Works for me.

That is exactly what the Left does to us, every time. And it works. We all need to be playing by the same rules now. Those rules do not include forgiveness or due process or assumption of innocence. Mistakes happen? Fry 'em anyway.

Everybody will hate it. So it goes.

I did not make the new rules. They made the rules. I just follow them.

129 posted on 10/22/2021 12:06:41 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody knows that the dice are loaded)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Wow! Just Wow! I am speechless.

What’s the matter with you today, that you would fling insults on me like this?


130 posted on 10/22/2021 12:08:07 PM PDT by hoe_cake
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To: flamberge

It’s not like were saying that “we should stone Alec Baldwin and his family to death”, or anything like that.


131 posted on 10/22/2021 12:09:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Which producer is responsible again?

All of them, joint and severally.

The insurance claim will be a legal nightmare. If there is any integrity left in the judicial system, Alec Baldwin will have the greatest liability, and all of the others will be assessed a smaller percentage of the settlement.

Baldwin's purported "joke" immediately before the shooting could possibly go to a manslaughter charge.

I doubt that things will actually turn out that way. Most likely, the armorer will be the scapegoat and nobody else will be sanctioned in any way.

132 posted on 10/22/2021 12:16:43 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody knows that the dice are loaded)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I’m taking a guess based on the little that’s known, including a history of reckless behavior by Baldwin. Not exactly projection. But thanks for caring.


133 posted on 10/22/2021 12:22:35 PM PDT by No Left Turn
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To: rktman
There should NEVER be live ammo on a set.

By live ammo in this case it was likely a blank cartridge.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59006905

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2021/10/22/what-prop-gun-alec-baldwin-shooting-incident-raises-questions/6132220001/#:~:text=%22Instead%20of%20using%20a%20bullet,called%20blanks%20%22extremely%20dangerous.%22

With a blank, when you squeeze the trigger no bullet is fired. "Instead of using a bullet, blanks use wads of paper, plastic, felt or cotton – this wadding ensures you get a certain level of flame out of the gun," they wrote. "The force of the wadding was enough to fatally injure [Hexum]."

134 posted on 10/22/2021 12:27:00 PM PDT by paltz
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To: marcusmaximus

Never let a libtard handle a firearm.

They can barely breathe on their own.


135 posted on 10/22/2021 12:35:07 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: HereInTheHeartland

This is the worst admission Baldwin has to make, is that he did it all for money. Turns out he’s a capitalist bastard like the rest of us. To a liberal thats worse than murdering someone.


136 posted on 10/22/2021 12:44:32 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

If they are filming then lets see the tape.


137 posted on 10/22/2021 12:44:38 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: Captain Peter Blood

> Here is the list of Producers:
> Alec Baldwin ... producer
> Kc Brandenstein ... co-producer
> Allen Cheney ... executive producer
> Matt DelPiano ... producer
> Tyler Gould ... executive producer
> Matthew Helderman ... executive producer
> Nathan Klingher ... producer
> Anjul Nigam ... producer
> Emily Hunter Salveson ... executive producer
> Ryan Donnell Smith ... producer
> Luke Taylor ... executive producer
> Ryan Winterstern ... producer

A name that jumps out at me is kc brandenstein, apparently female, about 36 yo, who has a scattering of small roles in a small number of movies spanning several years, until suddenly with Rust she is a co-producer, indicating that she is second in charge of production after Baldwin himself. One of the roles listed that jumps out is that of gun shot victim. Most of the roles are that of “production assistant” to one of the major stars of the movies. “Production assistant” is not infrequently regarded as meaning “go-fer” and is not infrequently a volunteer or intern position in low budget movies.

BTW wiki has not yet caught up with this latest Alec Baldwin scandal.


138 posted on 10/22/2021 12:47:03 PM PDT by SteveH (.)
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To: flamberge

Marching someone to the gallows with their own rule book.

Sauce for the goose!


139 posted on 10/22/2021 12:48:12 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: eyedigress

The account says he “started firing”, which implies more that one shot, not the single bullet account? Can anybody update this?


140 posted on 10/22/2021 12:48:40 PM PDT by DadOfFive (MAGA)
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