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I just hope that I get some relief. Tired of walking around like Quasimodo.
1 posted on 10/17/2021 3:57:36 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I have heard that you can inject your own stem cells

there are a lot of doctors near me who would love to charge you lots to do that.

don’t know if it works.

not giving medical advice either


2 posted on 10/17/2021 4:02:18 PM PDT by algore ( )
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4047299/


3 posted on 10/17/2021 4:03:47 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Use hip bone, not cadaver.
Learn your new limitations quickly. Remember them.


4 posted on 10/17/2021 4:04:13 PM PDT by enduserindy (I’m done explaining basic math and the definition of freedom. )
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Non fusion back surgery about 10 years ago. A laminectomy on T-10, T-11 and L-1 all the way to S-1. Basically they snap off the “dorsal bumps” and cut a notch in the vertebrae for your spinal cord to stop being compressed as much. Room to move. Mine looked like a link sausage prior to. Had I not done it I would have been using a hover-round. Did it totally fix things? No. Recovery was lengthy. No more skiing/snowboarding for me. I hope the surgery helps you with your issues. I do stand erect(ish) now but have dropped about an inch and a half in height.


5 posted on 10/17/2021 4:04:23 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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My prayers for a good, successful outcome. I had a laminectomy in ‘97. 100% successful.


6 posted on 10/17/2021 4:05:13 PM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle! It is STILL great to be an Auburn Tiger.)
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My only non-helpful input comes directly from an actual back surgeon. He refused to operate on anyone’s back unless the person crawled into his office.


8 posted on 10/17/2021 4:06:59 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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How old are you? Bone fusion doesn’t know when to stop growing. If you are too young, you may end up with stenosis.


11 posted on 10/17/2021 4:11:36 PM PDT by JubJub
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My wife had a spinal fusion months ago. Unfortunately she got an infection and they had to go back in to clean it out. Afterwards she spent several months on IV antibiotics. It took months for the wound to heal and all that time she was on a wound vac. My advice is to be mindful of infection and talk with your surgeon about ways they will take to avoid infection at the wound site.


12 posted on 10/17/2021 4:11:38 PM PDT by vortigern
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Physical therapy and exercising, especially walking, helps a great deal if you have a vertebrae out of place.

If that is the case, surgery only works about half the time. The back specialist I saw told me if you do most of what want to do, he recommends against surgery. If there are some things you can’t do without considerable pain, use a back brace.


13 posted on 10/17/2021 4:12:32 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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You’ll be okay. It’s amazing how far back surgeries have come over the past 20 years. Shoot, past ten!!! Mind your post surgery protocol and meds. You don’t want to take anymore than you have to. Use Tylenol or Alieve if possible instead of the opioids.


14 posted on 10/17/2021 4:12:39 PM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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About one year ago to this date, I went under surgery for Spinal Stenosis in the lower lumber region. I was treated the Vet Hospital across the bridge in San Francisco.
What lead up to this was a few weeks into August 2020, I began to experience terrible pains in my legs whenever I lay down to sleep. It felt like lightening bolts, fast, dramatic and severe. I was told it was due to my lowere spine pinching nerves.
I had the surgery, and after a few weeks of slow walking, gentle motion, I recovered. Those midnight lightening bolts of pain stopped for the most part. Once in a while, I still feel some pain along the long bones (thighs) and I get a sore bum if I sit too long without changing position or seat padding. More than earlier in life.

I still have back pain in the area of the surgery at that point of entry. I feel this pain as a backache if I do a lot of walking or if I’m moving my upper body and arms around for a while. The pain is a matter of soreness or a persistant ache after activity. This back ache is thankfully not chronic.

I have neuropathy in my feet. I’m not sure if it’s related to my original problem. Gabapentin helps with this pain, but does not remove it for very long. Not so bad, all things considered. I am still very glad to have gone through with the surgery. No more lightening bolts in the legs at night!
Good Luck to you. Decide to do what you are comfortable with for now.


18 posted on 10/17/2021 4:15:38 PM PDT by lee martell
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I haven’t been thru it, but I am imagining you will get thru this lying down...

Prayers up.


21 posted on 10/17/2021 4:18:15 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something)
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Don’t do it! Seek help from a Naturalpath. My wife was told it was only moths before she needed a knee replacement, because “they can’t heal.” That was three years ago before we changed our diet. Kick the carbs and especially sugar.


22 posted on 10/17/2021 4:20:14 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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I’d check into platlet enriched prolotherapy that includes your own stem cells.

I know an excellent Dr. Doing this near PHL. Pm me if interested.

You can always have irreversible surgery in the future if necessary.


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Don’t have enough knowledge to comment. I have “heard” that back surgery is very risky. Do your due diligence.


26 posted on 10/17/2021 4:26:13 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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I had back surgery back in 2013 for spinal stenosis. I was in excruciating pain before the surgery and now eight years later I’m in pretty good shape except for occasional back pain. Just be sure to take it easy after the surgery, I wore my back brace for several more weeks than recommended and it seemed to really help. And be very careful when picking objects up from the floor. Don’t bend over to pick things up, bend your knees. I forgot once and was in pain for a week after that. I also don’t try lifting anything over 20lbs either as the surgeon recommended.


27 posted on 10/17/2021 4:30:51 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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If you have questions talk to your doc


28 posted on 10/17/2021 4:31:52 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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I don’t know how old you are, or your weight.
You may be replacing one old familiar pain for a new pain.

Had a worker who had a fusion done. He regrets it 100%. He’s worse off now.
Before the surgery, the doctors promised him pain killers but didn’t say how much. It wasn’t enough (1/d) while he was in such pain, he was suicidal.
Then they installed a battery in his back to aleviate the pain. That thing failed and now he has this dead battery pack in his back which makes it uncomforable to sleep.
Last I heard, he’s buying street drugs for his pain and smoking pot.

Doctors lie.
They get paid whether the surgery is successful or not.
Please pray about doing this. When you’re done praying about it, PRAY AGAIN.


30 posted on 10/17/2021 4:36:01 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop ("There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration” - Pompeo)
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Degenerative Disk Disease put me out of the military at 20. I did research and cured it by nutrition about 7 years after retirement.

I do not have degenerative disk disease anymore, and I do not know anyone else who has walked away from it.


32 posted on 10/17/2021 4:39:09 PM PDT by Salvavida (Even now, come Lord Jesus!)
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I'm a science nerd; I was offered this surgery in my twenties, I read every medical journal on the subject I could and ran the numbers. Outcomes were slightly worse for those getting the surgery (worse disability) than those who just did physical therapy. I did intense physical therapy, and never had back problems again, despite being told I'd be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life by the surgeon if I didn't do the surgery.

Here is a link to two of many similar articles discussing orthopedic surgeries being statistically no different than a placebo

online article

journal article

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but I felt like I really dodged a bullet, and have led a healthy very athletic life in the many decades since the decision to cancel that surgery. I'm not giving medical advice, must relaying my experiences and giving you something to think about.

33 posted on 10/17/2021 4:45:44 PM PDT by LambSlave
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