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Raiders HC Jon Gruden Out as Head Coach, Resigns
MSN ^ | 10/11 | Marcus Mosher

Posted on 10/11/2021 6:18:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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On Monday night, Jon Gruden informed the team that he will resign as the team’s head coach after a New York Times piece was written in regards to emails he sent back in 2011.

The piece showed a number of concerning emails with vulgar criticism directed at Roger Goddell, President Barack Obama and more. According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the Raiders received word of these emails on Friday but did not take action over the weekend.

Instead, Gruden coached on Sunday against the Bears in what was his final game as the coach for the Raiders. The news was first reported by NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero via his Twitter account.

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To: nickcarraway

I don’t know for sure but like I said, they are generally guaranteed arrangements, just like the players have.

For instance, when coaches move to another team before a contract is up, the old teams pays the previous contract and the new team pays the new contract.


101 posted on 10/12/2021 10:35:21 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, most players are on non-guaranteed contracts, at least after a certain point. But, all coaches do have guaranteed contracts.


102 posted on 10/12/2021 11:38:03 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: nickcarraway
Unless Gruden is a fool, and I doubt he is, he only resigned with the understanding he was going to be paid his full salary. Either that or he agreed to substantial sum in a buyout.

No one in their right mind was going to walk away from the contract he had and not be handsomely paid off.

And, the emails were written when he was working for ESPN. So, the Raiders nor the league had a right to terminate or suspend him based on the emails.

103 posted on 10/12/2021 11:42:26 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Well, apparently, the league can do whatever it wants. And the Raiders and the NFL could trash him into a little ball.

The Raiders are the poorest team in the league. If Mark Davis wants to retain the team, he can't afford to be paying 10s of millions to absent coaches.

104 posted on 10/12/2021 12:32:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
No, the league can't do what it wants. Where are you getting that from?

Gruden has a valid contract. The Raiders either have to pay him all the remaining money on the contract or they have to negotiate a settlement with him.

The league nor team have ANY right to terminate his contract based on the emails in question because he was not employed by the league at the time he wrote the emails.

Gruden is going to get a huge amount of money. To the extent, he settles for less than the entire amount will ONLY be because it would open more employment opportunities for him to be freed from his contract.

105 posted on 10/12/2021 2:48:53 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Jonny7797

No. Coaching contracts are guaranteed BUT they generally have a waiver if you get another coaching gig at the same level. But also guarantees are only for if you get fired. If you quit that’s opting out. NFL player contracts aren’t default guaranteed. Players are getting smarter about the amount of cash that’s in a guarantee realizing that back ended “ego” contracts that you’re going to be cut before you see any of that money are worthless. Gruden might be getting some sort of payoff, but he ain’t getting 10 mil for the next six years of sitting at home.


106 posted on 10/12/2021 2:52:38 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: discostu

He has a contract to coach. If he voluntarily doesn’t coach then why do they owe him money? Hes not fulfilling his part of the contract.


107 posted on 10/12/2021 3:46:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: discostu

So you’re claiming someone’s can sign a contract to do some work I’m work, And then never show up for work and they still get paid? Can I come work for you?


108 posted on 10/12/2021 3:46:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: discostu

I dont think that’s completely correct. I know for a fact several coaches who have moved teams are getting paid by previous team and current team.


109 posted on 10/12/2021 5:19:12 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Kazan

Agreed. His reputation has been ruined and likely he won’t ever be an announcer again. It had to be the Commissioner’s office (Goodell). He did say some bad things about him and he got upset I guess.


110 posted on 10/12/2021 6:59:50 PM PDT by richardtavor ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Nope, didn’t say that. Quitting generally nulls the contracts. But when a contract is guaranteed firing them means you still need to pay them.


111 posted on 10/13/2021 7:31:01 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: Jonny7797

A lot of it depends on the league and the specifics of their CBA. I know NHL contracts better and I know they have a clause that ends payoff if you get an “equivalent” job. So another NHL head coaching gig. Which I think leads to a lot of coaches taking TV gigs for a year or 2 after getting fired. Until their contract runs out. Hey if you can get paid head coach money without doing head coach work... NFL coaching CBA I haven’t learned that much about. I know it’s guaranteed contracts, but I don’t know if there are out clauses. Given that there’s about 100 people vying for 32 head coaching jobs I have a hard time thinking the NFL would put themselves into a position to have to double pay coaches. But who knows.


112 posted on 10/13/2021 7:43:31 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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