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To: MtnClimber
My undergrad degree is a BA in History. In Jr High School, High School, and in College, I had teachers who explained Marxism to the class. Some of the teachers didn't like it but thought kids should understand it, but most of the teachers like Marxism very much and wanted to persuade kids how awesome it was.

I never had a teacher who made any effort to discuss Fascism.

It's bad. Okay? End of lesson.

I always thought that was very odd. It was a major political philosophy of the early 20th century -- in its early manifestation it was popular in many areas and quite influential. Britain had a Fascist party. Some people thought Edward VIII had fascist sympathies. Italy seemed to do well under fascism. Germany too. Then, of course, it went remarkably wrong and was rejected.

But wouldn't there be a lesson there? "This is what fascism is, this is why people found it attractive, this is how it went wrong, this is why we must never do that again"?

But no one really says that.

"It's bad. Okay? End of lesson."

I've studied it quite a bit. It's on the Left. It's Collectivist. It does not value the rights of the individual, but only values the Group (meaning the State). It's Socialist. If it's bad, and if it's seen as socialism, then it taints all other forms of socialism. The International Communists (Trotsky branch) have dominated the Left for many decades and it is in their interest to make sure that no one see how similar their philosophy is to fascism. The real difference is fascism is a Nationalist philosophy and Communism has become an Globalist philosophy.

The Left really hates all forms of Nationalism because it is such a direct competition to their ideas. You can be thoroughly Collectivist, but if you are patriotic to your own country, the Left will call you a far-right extremist.

I say America is a fascist country today, and has been for quite some time. And I think I'm using the term correctly not just hurling an insult: "We are meanies and racists and, you know, fascists." No. I don't mean that. I mean we have blended Big Business with Big Government, we have largely eliminated the the rights of the Individual, and we basically worship the State. That's fascism, and that's us.

5 posted on 10/08/2021 4:01:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You get it. Few do.

Promote this. It is im9.


7 posted on 10/08/2021 4:03:07 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree. I understand what fascism is and that is what the democRATs have been pushing and what we have largely become.


8 posted on 10/08/2021 4:10:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, The major difference between socialism and fascism is the later Nationalistic direction.
We have National Socialism vs. International Socialism.
None of them are desirable.

National Socialism has a problem - it is by definition mostly limited to one country/nation, so it can be defeated. Global Socialisms does not have this problem.


11 posted on 10/08/2021 5:07:24 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: ClearCase_guy

WOW, nice lesson, you should start a thread just on this issue. i thing it needs to be explored in depth.


18 posted on 10/08/2021 2:27:26 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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