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Pump or semi-auto shotgun?
Me | 10/2/2021 | Paul R

Posted on 10/02/2021 9:37:51 PM PDT by Paul R.

For home defense at a very budget constrained price, what do FReepers (or their sources) think: Semi-auto or pump action 12 ga. shotgun? Semi-auto will deliver the most stopping power in a very short time, but might it be less reliable? Other considerations?


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; pump; semiauto; shotgun
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To: Paul R.

Have you considered just buying an 18” barrel?


161 posted on 10/04/2021 9:55:00 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

Briefly, but, then I’d probably be switching back and forth some, and, my luck would still be the long barrel would be on when need for the short suddenly arose...


162 posted on 10/04/2021 10:20:39 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

If you look at Bud’s Guns online he’s got some Rock Island Armory 12 gauges for about $150 with free shipping. What always stopped me from buying extra barrels was that if I looked I could usually find a whole gun for a little more money.


163 posted on 10/04/2021 10:33:34 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

Yes, that 18.5” pump was what got me started on this. Last month it had a $50 rebate (at least thru one local store, also at the $150 price), but I saw that after the rebate had actually expired. Drat.


164 posted on 10/05/2021 1:58:46 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.
Have you checked Bud’s promo codes? Look like some possibilities.

CDNN Sports doesn’t look as promising.

165 posted on 10/05/2021 2:14:05 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Paul R.

Academy Sports looks like it has potential for Mossbergs.


166 posted on 10/05/2021 2:56:19 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Paul R.
A good pump gun is reliable and can be reloaded before it runs empty. A good semiauto requires a little more maintenance, but may be suitable for using while injured or disabled- or, in my case, while the right hand is occupied with operating the steering and throttle of a 4x4 ATV. The pump gun is usually a little less expensive. I've had 12-gauge pumps since 1961, usually Winchester M97, Remington 870 or Mossberg 500s.

I've had semiautos too, [Browning and Hi-Standard] and am sort of looking once more. I've got a Mouseburg 500 pump gun, and am after a semiauto for my daily driver runabout, probably magazine-fed. Thinking hard about the ATI *Bulldog* bullpup.


167 posted on 10/08/2021 1:28:54 PM PDT by archy (Neca eos omnes; Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: The Mayor
I love the pump, the sound alone will give anyone pause.

I like the pop! of the igniter cartridge of an M2A1-7 flamethrower myself, or the Twang! of the safety lever of a hand fragmentation grenade flying free. especially at night. But that's just me.

168 posted on 10/08/2021 1:32:52 PM PDT by archy (Neca eos omnes; Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: archy

Not gonna disagree there!


169 posted on 10/08/2021 1:59:50 PM PDT by The Mayor (”Oh bother”, said Pooh as he chambered his last round)
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To: Paul R.

It’s not too difficult to “short stroke” a pump-action shotgun in the heat of battle. Some are thinking to write saying that what’s needed is training. I am thinking of writing in reply that I know that.

The negative experience I have had with semi-auto shotguns is with fouling. Semi-auto action in the shotgun is not as reliable as after it’s been run for a longish period of time as it is with the rifle. That’s just in my experience.

But for a self-defense scenario, you won’t be running the gun for very long. The issue has only seems to appear at the range for me. I prefer to clean my weapon after I get back from the range, not at the range.


170 posted on 11/17/2023 2:25:06 PM PST by WKTimpco
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To: Paul R.

I have a Turkish-made Mossberg SA-20 (semi-auto, 20 gauge) that I’m very happy with.

As Massad Ayoob says, the only difference a 12ga vs 20ga makes in your house is a bigger cleanup bill.


171 posted on 11/17/2023 2:27:55 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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People that have rarely used a pump may short stroke the action. Get a semi and practice. I have a pump i have used for 55 years.


172 posted on 11/17/2023 2:35:06 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: Paul R.

At that price point get the pump. I wouldn’t bet my life on a $200 semi auto anything.

L


173 posted on 11/17/2023 2:37:19 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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