Posted on 10/02/2021 7:55:51 AM PDT by Enlightened1
A shocking new poll from the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia reveals that over half of Trump voters surveyed, and 41% of Biden voters, are in favor of blue and/or red states seceding from the union. Yeah, it’s gotten that bad.
The idea that the nation’s political divide has become so toxic that we should prepare from some sort of “national divorce” has largely been left to clever thought experiments best left for dinner parties and ironically detached columns. However, we’ve now arrived at a point where more than half of Trump voters “somewhat agree” that the time for secession is nigh.
From the Center for Politics report:
Significant numbers of both Trump and Biden voters show a willingness to consider violating democratic tendencies and norms if needed to serve their priorities. Roughly 2 in 10 Trump and Biden voters strongly agree it would be better if a “President could take needed actions without being constrained by Congress or courts,” and roughly 4 in 10 (41%) of Biden and half (52%) of Trump voters at least somewhat agree that it’s time to split the country, favoring blue/red states seceding from the union.
The report continues by examining the broad political dissolution felt by members of both parties (emphasis mine.):
— On one hand, roughly 80% of Trump and Biden voters view democracy as preferable to any non-democratic kind of government.
— On the other hand, more than 6 in 10 Trump and Biden voters see America as less a representative democracy and more a system that is run by and rigged for the benefit of the wealthy.
— Overall, more than two-thirds support — and one-third strongly — emboldening and empowering strong leaders and taking the law into their own hands when it comes to dealing with people or groups they view as dangerous.
— And their willingness to consider violating democratic tendencies and norms extends beyond the hypothetical and to a dangerous and alarming finding: Roughly 2 in 10 Trump and Biden voters — or more than 31 million Americans — strongly agree it would be better if a “President could take needed actions without being constrained by Congress or courts” (as extrapolated from the results of this survey). Roughly 4 in 10 (41%) of Biden and half (52%) of Trump voters at least somewhat agree that it’s time to split the country, favoring blue/red states seceding from the union.
A shocking YouGov poll in June found that 66% of Republicans in southern states want to secede from the United States. That survey, which was done in conjunction with BrightLineWatch, looked at the current political climate in America. The most stunning question concerned support or opposition for the state in which respondents lived in “seceding from the United States to join a new union with [list of states in new union]?”
President Joe Biden largely ran on a platform of reunification, and despite an effective six first months of largely positive approval ratings, recent missteps in Afghanistan, and a resurgence of Covid infections, which is — ironically, largely due to a large percentage of Trump supporters refusal to get a vaccine — have led to his approval being underwater.
The end time is here and cannot be postponed. Stolen election can have lethal consequences. It is all part of God’s plan. Condemnation comes via the Democrat Party.
If TX secedes would they be allowed to shoot illegals crossing the border from any direction?
yeah right.
Yeah, I AM right. Thanks for acknowledging it.
Then, as now, Patriots were in the minority. Most were “Loyalists” in the colonies acquiescing to England and afraid of their power.
***Not true. About a third were Loyalists to the Crown, a third were indifferent, and a third were Patriots.
Patriots then had about as much chance of winning as we do now against the gargantuan Left.
***You’re probably right, but back then, neither side had nukes. That’s the real chess piece.
But what patriots counted on then and what Patriots MUST count on today is the helping Hand of the Divine Providence of the Lord God Almighty to win.
***Yup, I agree.
And then, as now, there were no guarantees, and every signer of the Declaration of Independence were very aware they may very well be signing their death warrant.
***Most of them were signing their own death warrants. It was literally a high crime of treason against the King at the time. https://www.deseret.com/2000/6/28/19515104/signing-the-declaration-was-death-warrant-for-many
Where is that love for freedom today and willingness to risk lives and fortunes to gain/maintain freedom?
***It went to the mall.
Patriots today face no such threat of death (yet). As then, we are calling for an impossible task, but with a firm faith in Divine Providence. If that’s “belling the cat” so be it.
***I don’t think that’s belling the cat.
But try not to be too discouraging to those who are not willing to surrender their precious freedom without a fight (to the death if necessary).
***I think you simply need to understand what the term “belling the cat” means.
Then why do you reply to my post # 53 with “belling the cat”, (a pretty cynical outlook)? You come across as pretty cynical, as many today are.
Our ancestors did not bell the cat. They fought the cat and won, gambling on having superior numbers, dispersed fighters, and the homegrown ability to make cannon [why the Liberty Bell was so important].
The equivalent of belling the cat would be to have an ability to warn civilians and casually disarm the soldiers when the “British were coming”. There was no peaceful way to do it. They needed to come to violence.
Fighting the cat versus belling the cat.
Unless you are building a sacrificial buffer zone!
***The sacrificial buffer zone would be carved out of MEXICAN territory, not New American United States territory.
I agree. I am done with the democrat taliban party using government to coerce and force their demands onto all of us.
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