Posted on 09/29/2021 2:31:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
One of the most famous Kings in the world has to be Henry VIII of England. He is most known today for the fact he had 6 wives, and the fact he ordered the execution of 2 of these, Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard. Henry VIII's love life certainly was turbulent, and it caused chaos across the country. After being refused a divorce for his first wife Catherine of Aragon, he split from Rome becoming the Supreme Head of the Church of England. This began the English Reformation, which changed the face of religion forever.
We know much about Henry's wives, Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, Anne of Cleves, Catherine Howard and Katherine Parr. However there was another lady who was being considered shortly before the King died to become his SEVENTH wife. Katherine Parr had began to arouse suspicion within the royal court, and the King allegedly had his eye on a much younger lady, Katherine Willoughby the Duchess of Suffolk.
Katherine had been married as a teenager to a much older man, and was an incredibly rich Duchess owning a huge amount of land across various counties. She was a staunch Protestant and even friends with Henry's sixth wife, but rumours began to circulate about the King and Katherine Willoughby getting married, once Henry possibly divorced Katherine Parr.
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That 6th wife was quite the piece of work. 17 years old. Felt sorry for the guy that was hung, drawn and quartered. Poor bastard, he died hard.
Or "cursive writing?" One thing I learned doing historical research in this country, is that if you don't know how to read and write cursive, you won't be able to read any of the documents that were created before the typewriter was invented. And I'm sure kids today even say "typewriters?"
I had to explain typewriters to someone in their 20s sometime during this calendar year. :^)
Largely....I’m not convinced she was completely innocent...
Yes...precisely
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Rare is a poster here that admits when wrong
Well done
Un-freaking-believable.
None of the charges against her were true, so, she was not guilty. Innocence is something else.
Later
She certainly hastened the execution of Thomas More, and others.
Her execution might be considered today as......Schadenfreude
More did more to hasten the execution of Thomas More than did anyone, apart from the executioner.
They also don’t remember dot matrix printers too well, or ribbon re-inkers for same. :^)
More was not innocent either, but she hastened his execution.
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You dont know that.....can’t say it with authority
She may not have screwed her brother but she may have dallied with the creative guy
It’s like the wee princes..it looks bad but who knows if KR3 actually ordered it
You dont know that.....can’t say it with authority.
Right back at you. Thomas Cromwell arranged a drumhead trial, wiped out most of the Boleyns, and ironically set the clock ticking on his own fall for his very real corruptions, after everyone else at court realized they could be next.
The Anne of Cleaves debacle provided the opportunity for his enemies to rid themselves of him.
Unrelated: Anne of Cleaves is my favorite of the wives. She's the only one who came out anything close to a winner. She could figure out which way the wind was blowing, and adjusted her views and conduct in a way that kept her alive and mostly prosperous. In fact she was quite popular.
That’s the point..no doubt Cromwell felt she was a liability to himself by that juncture
But it’s all speculation now
And scholars who study the body of evidence available today opinions tend to shift with cultural wind
Today with feminism and more specifically #metoo sentiment so called experts look at that Boleyn woman with a hoped for outcome they seek to justify
It's not all speculation now. Thomas More was struck down because of actual things he actually did. He wasn't executed for stuff he'd done earlier, such as burning people at the stake.
There are essentially no scholars who buy into the line of BS Cromwell cooked up to eliminate the main obstacle to his policies and intrigues. The rejection of the bogus charges came about long, long before the faddish "metoo".
Cromwell was struck down because he pissed off Henry VIII by ramrodding the Anne of Cleves marriage, but those were not the charges.
The reason we have a better legal system now is because trials were inherently unfair for thousands of years.
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