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To: ransomnote
There’ve been two researchers so far, (Dr. flemming was one) who said that people who are vaccinated develop antibodies to the nucleocapsid. Flemming: “If the ‘vaccine’ doesn’t include the nucleocapsid, then why do vaccinated people develop antibodies to the nucleocapsid?”

What is the answer and context?

1,398 posted on 09/16/2021 11:17:34 PM PDT by Ymani Cricket ( "Pressure Makes Diamonds" ~General Patton)
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To: Ymani Cricket
 Ymani Cricket wrote:
There’ve been two researchers so far, (Dr. flemming was one) who said that people who are vaccinated develop antibodies to the nucleocapsid. Flemming: “If the ‘vaccine’ doesn’t include the nucleocapsid, then why do vaccinated people develop antibodies to the nucleocapsid?”

What is the answer and context?

CLICK TO SKIP MY LONG ANSWER

Fauci's branch of the NIH worked with Moderna and Pfizer (don't know if J&J too) to 'select' the mRNA (code for a specific spike protien), presumably from China's released Covid genome (Jan 10,2020) to put in the vaccines.

PR said at the time that the mRNA code for a spike protein from Covid would be selected which would be harmless in the absence of the Covid virus.  The vaccine mRNA coding would tell the vaccinated cells to produce the same spike as the Covid illness, and the body would produce the same antibodies as one receiving the natural infection.

That wasn't true of course, because neither the Chinese nor the pharmas used isolated samples of Covid to produce 'vaccines'. The Chinese could not have really released the true genome for Covid - they stated they did not have any isolated samples of the Covid virus, but instead used 'gene sequencing.' Okay, gene sequencing....compared to what? You don't have a sample of the original but somehow you made an identical clone of it?

Okay, Okay, I'm sure a Gates or Fauci paid organization claims they have the actual virus, but I believe those, including Dr. Judy Mikovits who says whenever she reads a paper by someone who has claimed to isolate Covid, they don't have it. They have viral samples in monkey vero kidney cells, they have a mixure taken from a lung wash (not isolated) so objectively they can't say they correctly identified something in the mixture as Covid.

SO the trolls scream everybody has isolated samples of Covid everyday, in every lab, and always has, but it's not true.

The plandemic was awarded that 'scary title' because CDC/Fauci/WHO said Covid was a 'novel virus' which means none of us had ever encountered it before, so no one would have immunity (like a zero day computer virus). That's obviously not true, many have demonstrated good immunity to it. Many of us had immunity following infections from similar coronaviruses.

So Covid isn't 'novel', but the Chinese et. al. said it was from the start. Well then, how could they use gene sequencing to get the Covid genome? Gene sequencing draws from a libary of known  coronaviruses, pieces of which are used to patch in portions of the Covid genome. SO how can you create a 'novel' virus genome using pieces of other known coronavirus genomes? You can't.

Early on, there was a social media account that was archived prior to being censored which stated that a man had died following vaccination, but his doctor said the antibodies in his bodies post 'vaccine' were not the same as the natural antibodies from Covid. I looked up the decased by name, and references to his death were purged or rewritten, as if someone went after them to deny that, delete that.

At that time - 'the narrative' spin was that the 'spikes' were exactly the same, so the vaccinated could reap the anti-body development to counter Covid without ever experiencing the harmful effects of this false 'novel' virus to which we supposedly don't have any natural immunity.

White hat scientists are probably not allowed to experiment on a patented technology like mRNA vaccines, but they did somehow have access to the the Covid spike proteins (possibly from a vaccinated person? Or just the sequence Fauci's NIH selected to put in vaccines?). SO they used a 'dummy virus' (harmless, virus in name only) and attached vaccine spike proteins to it and tested it, and discovered that the spike proteins alone (ignore the harmless test virus) were responsible for the damage previously attributed to Covid their own right. Specifically, the nuclear capsid of the spike protein was deemed very toxic.

Anger and tantrums ensued - with the CDC, NIH aghast at the 'misinformation' they claimed maligned their life saving products. They clarified that the 'vaccine' includes the idencial spike protein except the nucleocapsid. This has been a point of contention ever since. Researchers saying, "well if you didn't include the toxic nucleocapsid in the vaccine, then the vaccinated did not have a chance to develop antibodies to the most toxic part of getting Covid.' THe elites were indignant, screamed at those they deem their inferrors,  'Liar!" before running to their bedroom, and slamming  the door...twice.

Dr. Flemming held up what he claimed was research proving that those subjected to the Covid 'vaccine' do indeed develop antibodies to the nuclear capsid, and asks pharma to explain how that could possibly happen if the capsid is genuinely not present in the vaccine. So clearly he believes they lied on the fly when researchers came up with the brilliant idea  of just attaching spike proteins to a dummy virus and recording what happened.

I think one of the answers Fauci/Pharma flung, at people outside the regime, was something to the effect that those who lack the qualifications and lab access to the actual work are spreading dangerous misinformation through ignorance.

I don't see how pharma/fauci could talk their way out of that scandal -  if they did include a toxic nucleocapsid in the vaccine, they injected people with the damaging part of Covid. If they didn't inject people with the toxic nucleocapsid, the 'vaccinated' would not be expected to develop antibodies to the most damaging part of a supposedly 'novel" virus nucleocapsid.

While I don't know what the answer is, and the answer could have changed over time, wth changes in the 'vaccine' formula, reset assured that CDC/NIH/pharma continue to conduct assaults on public heatlh and lie about it.

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1,426 posted on 09/17/2021 2:39:43 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Ymani Cricket

“If the ‘vaccine’ doesn’t include the nucleocapsid, then why do vaccinated people develop antibodies to the nucleocapsid?”
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Short hypothetical answer—maybe they already had the them as part of the 81% of the people who have existing immunity? And their immune system was triggered and produced them.


1,449 posted on 09/17/2021 4:17:21 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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