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Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux – Try Different Desktops
LinuxLinks ^ | 6 September 2021 | Steve Emms

Posted on 09/06/2021 5:53:07 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: martin_fierro

Plasma desktop has the cube thing too. Also has wobbly windows and other GUI goodies. Grab a window by the title bar and move it and it distorts/wobbles. I have them both turned off because all those GUI goodies tend to make this old laptop’s CPUs run a bit warm. It’s about time for me to open it up and blow the dust out of it.

Virtual desktops is the handiest thing ever. I run 6 of them and have the keyboard shortcut — hold Alt + Ctrl and use left/right arrow keys to rotate through them. So much nicer than using Alt Tab repeatedly to find one of many programs in a pile/stack.


41 posted on 09/06/2021 9:27:16 AM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: Samurai_Jack

“Linux will never be a windows replacement with the continued reliance on the terminal sudo commands to call down upgrades, patches and installs. Without a serious PnP capacity it is crippled.”

That’s my take as well - as long as you have to go to the command line to do anything that windows can with pnp it’s just going to be a product for the nerdy.

I’m running Linux Mint, I finally got it set up the way I want it, but it’s taken a lot of googling and sudo this and that.

And all the different distros is also a negative. It’s sold as a plus, but it’s confusing for the person trying to decide which one to pick and dilutes the efforts of the developers.


42 posted on 09/06/2021 10:02:42 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Mr. K; ShadowAce

“This article sums it all up.”

Exactly. If you’re a beginner you need to read these hundreds of pages to just make a choice, and you need to be familiar with all the technical terms within them.

No beginner or typical computer user is going to do that.

I’m using Mint, but I’m hardly the typical computer user. My wife would never pick it up.


43 posted on 09/06/2021 10:18:08 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: ShadowAce

All this talk about windows versus linux and command line vs. GUI seems absurd to me.

Maybe it’s a terrible analogy but it seems like saying until you make baseball like golf golfers aren’t going to want to play it.

First off baseball ain’t golf it’s baseball and that difference is always going to be there.

Second of all people who play baseball don’t really care if the golfers join in the fun or not.

This is sure to get some people’s hackles up but face it - it is what it is.


44 posted on 09/06/2021 10:26:16 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ShadowAce

I’ve always wanted to comment on your tag line. Funny.


45 posted on 09/06/2021 10:37:58 AM PDT by ex91B10 (Just because you can doesn't mean you should. )
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To: aquila48
I’m running Linux Mint, I finally got it set up the way I want it, but it’s taken a lot of googling and sudo this and that.

Try getting Slackware to do what you need...flippin' nightmare.

46 posted on 09/06/2021 10:45:45 AM PDT by ex91B10 (Just because you can doesn't mean you should. )
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I agree with that, but when lies are posted.....


47 posted on 09/06/2021 10:54:30 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

If you want to use linux use it. If you don’t want to or somehow can’t then don’t.

But all the whining about how “it’s not like windows” - well that’s by design and nobody really cares if you don’t use it to be brutally honest about it.


48 posted on 09/06/2021 11:31:47 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Pollard

Thanks! I’ll give those instructions to Grandma- she’ll be up and running in no time.

Look, how hard is it to understand? In this day and asge NO ONE wants to fiddle with the operating system. Except you Linux geeks.

I have been WRITING SOFTWARE FOR A LIVING for over THREE DECADES.

I have been using both Windows and Linux (mostly for embedded medical devices and military hardware) and I understand it is clearly a superior operating system FOR SOME THINGS, but being user-friendly is NOT one of them.

And that is why Microsoft owns the world even though UNIX/Linux has been around much longer, and many parts of windows bites the big one.

But when the Y38 problem comes around, what are you guys going to do? (hint: running out of clock ‘ticks’)


49 posted on 09/06/2021 11:54:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K

Buy grandma a PC/Laptop that already has Linux installed.

She’ll never have to worry about 30 minute restarts after an update or forced upgrades to a new version of the OS.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/xps-13-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-9310-laptop/ctox139w10p2c3000u

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/search?fq={!ex=735}lengs_OperatingSystem_facet_735:Linux&text=ubuntu&rows=20&page=1&sort=relevance&display_tab=Products


50 posted on 09/06/2021 12:07:55 PM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: Pollard

Great post! I would like to make a note and add to it. Rufus now has an option to make that stick “Portable” as they call it. This makes it a full removable portable system stick or external drive that you can indeed save to or make and keep custom changes.

Just like as if it was the main drive and hard installed. Plug it in and you have a fully usable linux system, unplug it and you are back to windows or MAC and it makes no changes to your existing system or hard drive. :)

I have been making these and sending them out to friends.


51 posted on 09/06/2021 12:31:10 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Pollard

+1


52 posted on 09/06/2021 12:36:55 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Mr. K
...but being user-friendly is NOT one of them.

From oneandoneis2 web site

Problem #5: The myth of "user-friendly"

This is a big one. It's a very big term in the computing world, "user-friendly". It's even the name of a particularly good webcomic. But it's a bad term.

The basic concept is good: That software be designed with the needs of the user in mind. But it's always addressed as a single concept, which it isn't.  If you spend your entire life processing text files, your ideal software will be fast and powerful, enabling you to do the maximum amount of work for the minimum amount of effort. Simple keyboard shortcuts and mouseless operation will be of vital importance.

But if you very rarely edit text files, and you just want to write an occasional letter, the last thing you want is to struggle with learning keyboard shortcuts. Well-organized menus and clear icons in toolbars will be your ideal. 

Clearly, software designed around the needs of the first user will not be suitable for the second, and vice versa. So how can any software be called "user-friendly", if we all have different needs?

The simple answer: User-friendly is a misnomer, and one that makes a complex situation seem simple.

What does "user-friendly" really mean? Well, in the context in which it is used, "user friendly" software means "Software that can be used to a reasonable level of competence by a user with no previous experience of the software." This has the unfortunate effect of making lousy-but-familiar interfaces fall into the category of "user-friendly"

But when the Y38 problem comes around, what are you guys going to do? (hint: running out of clock ‘ticks’)

This question betrays your motive. Y38 will be an obsolete issue by the time it comes around, and if you spent any time at all in the linux sphere, you would know this.

Frankly, if all you are gonna do is criticize and complain about Linux, feel free to ignore these threads.

53 posted on 09/06/2021 12:40:46 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Openurmind

They call that Live Persistent(changes are persistent) and Rufus was the only one that worked for me even though others had that feature. I did a basic test, boot up, create folder on the desktop, restart. It wasn’t until I used Rufus that the folder still existed after a restart. I tried different distros, different USB burning apps on Linux and ended up using Rufus on Windows.

Runs pretty slow on a USB port but that’s all I have. I was making a homebrew crypto hardware wallet but I cashed out of crypto.


54 posted on 09/06/2021 12:41:03 PM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: ShadowAce
"Frankly, if all you are gonna do is criticize and complain about Linux, feel free to ignore these threads."


I was going to say the same..
55 posted on 09/06/2021 1:24:41 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Pollard

Like your last paragraph

Left for Linux


56 posted on 09/06/2021 1:26:49 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: usconservative

“are easier to do from the command line”

there’s absolutely NOTHING that an ordinary Windows user HAS to do from the command line ...


57 posted on 09/06/2021 4:16:13 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

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58 posted on 09/06/2021 5:33:48 PM PDT by sjm_888
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To: catnipman
there’s absolutely NOTHING that an ordinary Windows user HAS to do from the command line ...

I disagree as I use Windows for work, and so I'll simply echo your statement back to you re: Linux.

59 posted on 09/06/2021 5:47:39 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: The Duke

LibreOffice works great on windows too ...


60 posted on 09/06/2021 6:09:39 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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