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1 posted on 08/30/2021 9:38:08 PM PDT by NImerc
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I wonder how long it will be before the snowflakes start accusing her of threatening TaliBiden. I wouldn’t put it past this administration to try and sic the FBI on this poor woman. I hope I’m wrong.


29 posted on 08/30/2021 11:31:13 PM PDT by Rainbow Rising (Defund the FBI!)
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30 posted on 08/30/2021 11:36:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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New York Times v Sullivan (1964)

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The general proposition that freedom of expression upon public questions is secured by the First Amendment has long been settled by our decisions. The constitutional safeguard, we have said,

'was fashioned to assure unfettered interchange of ideas for the bringing about of political and social changes desired by the people...

The maintenance of the opportunity for free political discussion to the end that government may be responsive to the will of the people and that changes may be obtained by lawful means, an opportunity essential to the security of the Republic, is a fundamental principle of our constitutional system...

(I)t is a prized American privilege to speak one's mind, although not always with perfect good taste, on all public institutions...'

and this opportunity is to be afforded for 'vigorous advocacy' no less than 'abstract discussion.'

The First Amendment, said Judge Learned Hand, 'presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection.

To many this is, and always will be, folly; but we have staked upon it our all.' Mr. Justice Brandeis, in his concurring opinion in Whitney v. California, gave the principle its classic formulation:

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'Those who won our independence believed...

that public discussion is a political duty; and that this should be a fundamental principle of the American government. They recognized the risks to which all human institutions are subject.

But they knew that order cannot be secured merely through fear of punishment for its infraction; that it is hazardous to discourage thought, hope and imagination;

that fear breeds repression; that repression breeds hate; that hate menaces stable government;

that the path of safety lies in the opportunity to discuss freely supposed grievances and proposed remedies; and that the fitting remedy for evil counsels is good ones.

Believing in the power of reason as applied through public discussion, they eschewed silence coerced by law—the argument of force in its worst form. Recognizing the occasional tyrannies of governing majorities, they amended the Constitution so that free speech and assembly should be guaranteed.'

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Thus we consider this case against the background of a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials.

In Sullivan, the plaintiff was L. B. Sullivan, an elected Commissioner of Montgomery, Alabama. One of the defendants was the New York Times, who published an advertisement critical of Sullivan, paid for by the other defendants.

To parallel the story in this thread, the government official is Joe Biden, the person critical of Biden is the mother of the slain soldier, and Facebook is the forum where the criticism was published.

However, Facebook is taking the opposite view that the New York Times did, and suspended the mother instead of defending her right to have "uninhibited, robust, and wide-open" debate that is full of "vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks" on Biden.

It's a shame how the institutions of public discourse have turned away from holding government accountable and towards silencing the critics of government.

-PJ

37 posted on 08/31/2021 12:31:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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I can not even begin to imagine the pain these families are going through.


38 posted on 08/31/2021 12:51:56 AM PDT by angelsonmyside
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They gave a megaphone to Cindy Sheehan.


41 posted on 08/31/2021 1:46:10 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Time flies like an arrow... Fruit flies like a banana )
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FB is evil and nobody should use it.


45 posted on 08/31/2021 2:04:10 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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I don’t see where she’s wrong about any of that.


46 posted on 08/31/2021 2:12:13 AM PDT by boycott
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The media goons would have suspended her no matter what she said. They have to protect that demented disgrace of a former vice president. I thought what she said, considering the circumstances, was appropriately polite.


47 posted on 08/31/2021 2:15:19 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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Bump


50 posted on 08/31/2021 2:38:11 AM PDT by lowbridge
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I hope everybody reads her whole screed. Biden’s behavior (talking about his son to make it all about Joe Biden, rolling his eyes, etc.) was so appalling that it’s a wonder she didn’t have to be pulled off him by the Secret Service.


52 posted on 08/31/2021 3:01:53 AM PDT by livius
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Wow!


55 posted on 08/31/2021 3:15:18 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (While the foundations are being destroyed, what are the righteous doing?)
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The last sentence says it all.....


61 posted on 08/31/2021 3:42:49 AM PDT by 1217Chic
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I suspect social media platforms will not be very tolerant of discussions regarding the devastating consequences resulting from the Afghanistan withdrawal. Such topics will soon be considered taboo and simply part of a conspiracy theory.


62 posted on 08/31/2021 3:52:37 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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God bless her.


65 posted on 08/31/2021 5:11:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Probably justified it because of the stolen election claims.


68 posted on 08/31/2021 5:56:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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