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To: bagster; xone
Xone, so right! Could also be Fascism. Not much difference between the two.

Government control of Business
Government control of Industry
Government control of Media and the Press
Government control of Education
And forcible suppression of dissent!

Of course that is the 1910 Websters College Dictionary definition. They were clearer about these things at the time.

1,680 posted on 08/26/2021 5:35:57 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I hope you read the many responses to xone’s comments.

Corporatism and libertarianism are not the answer. Governments both fed and state are meant to secure our liberties as described in the Constitution. Whether said liberties are violated by state or federal laws that need to be changed, or by municipalities, counties, cities or yes, businessnes.


1,719 posted on 08/26/2021 7:22:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing is more important than Truth)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Among the “socialist” schemes (socialism, fascism, communism) one can delineate along the lines of revenue.

“Means of production” and “revenue” are twisted together under socialism.
As government control advances though it stages, the revenue defines the malady.

Capitalism is the ONLY economic system that divorces revenue control from government control.


1,812 posted on 08/27/2021 4:49:13 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
It is my understanding that in Fascism, companies still exist as their own entity, but through coercion (otherwise known as "threats") of the government, are performing at the government's behest. (i.e., restaurants requiring vax passport, car companies manufacturing electric cars that no one wants, etc.). In other words, if you don't do this, we strip away your business licenses. Perfect example is the restaurant owners who lost their liquor licenses last year when they refused to close down. Government is forcing businesses to do the policing and enforcement of unconstitutional edicts while standing aside and appearing to be "clean" and uninvolved.

In Communism, the government is the sole owner of the means of production. For example, in Atlas Shrugged when Francisco's copper mines were "nationalized," and taken over by the government. Within weeks they were unable to produce any copper. Same thing happened in real life in Venezuela when the government took over the oil fields. Suddenly they were unable to produce any oil. In the Soviet Union, the line the farmers used to repeat was, "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us." The result: food shortages and mass starvation.

I think what we have now is some sort of hybrid "Neo-Tech-Fascism" where the true Communists that have been raised, educated, intermarried and fully indoctrinated and then embedded into the corporations in order to carry out the orders from government. This has become blatantly obvious in the journalism industry and now in the tech/social media industry. They fully intend to implement this "social score" that requires you to be documented 24/7 and be denied access to food, housing and medical care depending on how "in line" you are with the Groupthink. And it's straight outta China.

2,196 posted on 08/28/2021 12:33:36 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven )
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