Posted on 08/16/2021 4:18:40 PM PDT by RandFan
Somebody had to get us out of this mess, sounds familiar; but Joe, of course, was the wrong guy to run the operation. I get it, Rand, we had no business being there etc., etc. and so on...But, unfortunately Joe was the guy who was tasked with draining the Afghan swamp; and he blew it. No use, while we are up to our ears in crocs, in pontificating .
I do respect Rand, while not always in agreement with him.
That being said, for a guy who loathes Liz Cheney, he sure seems to carve out a similar path to a political career on Capitol Hill:
Become a high ranking member of Congress thanks to your controversial' dear old dad's last name still carrying significant weight in the Republican Party. Assure everyone that you are more mainstream and less polarizing than daddy, and disagree with dad on various topics that people dislike him for. Then persistently and loudly keep trying to push dear old dad's agenda in the 21st century Republican Party, never questioning whether dad's ideals were flawed or why so many decent conservatives are turned off by dad.
Two sides of the same coin. Weird that that despise each other so much.
Since Rand wants to dredge back old stuff from the early 2000s and gloat "See? Dad was right! He WARNED ya about nation building in Afghanistan!", I will happily return the favor and dredge back up some foreign policy that his dad thought was a splendid idea back then:
Remember Ariel Sharon and Israel's unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in the name of peace? 'Neocons' back in 2005 in were vehemently against it and condemned Sharon as a traitor and said it would be a disaster. The liberal media, Democrats, and yes, Paleoconservatives like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan were all FOR it, and had been saying for YEARS that Israeli was illegally "occupying" Gaza and their "Settlements" there an "obstacle to peace". Israel needed to be the bigger man and stop offending the Palestinaisn with their presence there, peacefully hand over the land completely to the Palestians, and give them the right to govern themselves. If Sharon would just stop being a mean nasty ol' warmonger and take that simple step, it would do a lot to defuse the situation there.
So, how's that been working out, Ron and Rand? Lots of "peace" in the Gaza strip these days? Those neocons who opposed it tooth-and-nail certainly see how wrong they were trying to justify the "occupation" right? Aren't things just peachy now that the Palestinians in Gaza can govern themselves without Israel having any say in the matter?
What's the matter, cat got your tongue? You seem as quiet about that as Bush and Cheney are about Afghanistan right now. Funny how it works that way!
I have always liked Rand and this year he has definitely set him apart with courage and honest questions about big issues. Hope he considers running in 2024.
I like Rand a lot, too. Many people were against the nation building and I think he just uses his dad Ron as an outspoken example of those opposed it.
Terrorism would have been on a continued ascendancy the entire time if we had listened to Ron Paul. We were attacking terrorist states because “they were different from us” - parroting the far left and the terrorist’s propaganda that it was a “war against Islam.” America was to blame for 9/11 attacks and they didn’t hate us for our values, etc.
Clueless then. Clueless now.
Not that I agree with being in Afghanastan for 20 years but the military did exactly that "nation building" in Japan and West Germany after WWII.
You cannot Nation Build when a country is stuck in the 7th Century.
I agree with that statement although Japan was stuck in feudalism and emperor worship. Islam is a cult of a different animal all together. What I disagree with is the statement that we can never nation build. That is a false statement.
Actually Japan was fairly modern, they even then pretty much were crazy for Baseball, even during the War.
Ron & Rand Paul are 2 of the reasons This Happened.
Their culture and mentality wasn't. Women and children jumping off cliffs rather than surrender, men committing suicide via kamakazi or on themselves or getting nuked twice before actually even considering surrender. Worshiping their emperor like a God. Not very modern.
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