Posted on 08/12/2021 5:22:23 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
Did "corrected" vote totals from the 2020 election presented by Mike Lindell at his election fraud Cyber Symposium as "Truth" support the theory that fake ballots were injected into every state's official election returns? No, that's not true: Lindell's "Truth" totals add up to the same number of votes he calls "The Big Lie," which are the final tallies that have appeared in multiple official and unofficial sources. Those tallies were compiled without the aid of the data Lindell used in declaring the election was hacked. It is nonsensical that Lindell's "Truth" tally would match "Big Lie" tallies in state after state, since he and a Ph.D. chemist ally named Douglas Frank claim to know that many fake votes were injected in order to change the result.
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Well you certainly are NOT a math expert...
From an earlier thread:
“The formula for calculating correlation is: The correlation between ballots cast and registrations for all counties in Ohio is .9993109593 which is of course EXACTLY what one would expect. “ -rwc1
Me:
No - not ever in the real world with real independent data would one expect a correlation that high.
0.8 is really strong; 0.95 amazing; 0.999 fantasy-with real data even when there is a expected behavioral relationship. This is not testing a physical property, like sunrise to change in brightness. This is behavior.
You should get a load of the poster of this thread posts from 2016.
https://freerepublic.com/tag/by:rightwingconspiratr1/index?more=100000000
He wasn't happy that Trump got the nomination, and he never got on board the Trump Train.
“The dr. Shiva speech was epic”
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Dr. Shiva on Warroom said that the difference in votes between The Big Lie and The Truth was 4.2% across the board, in every state. Just switch 4.2% of the votes from Biden to Trump in every state, including D.C.
He said either Lindell was fed inaccurate numbers, or the people who did the cheating were not very sophisticated in how they went about it, and since China has some of the top mathematicians in the world, it’s more likely that Lindell was feed bogus numbers in an effort to discredit election audit movement.
Shiva will be back on Bannon’s Warroom in the morning, I expect him to flesh that theory out then.
It’s disappointing, I’d like to know who was working for Lindell that was supposed to look over that data for him.
Same neighborhood, clownboy.
Physicists and chemists at this level are homies. And they get ALL the mathematics as at least a minor.
One of my best friends is a PhD chemist.
We sat in the same math, chemistry and physics classes.
I thought Dr Frank said that the whole election was pre-determined and based on the census.
My question was if this were the case why was the vote counting stopped, why were ballots manipulated and scanned multiple times, why did truck loads of ballots show up in the middle of the night...etc.
If the whole thing had been based on the census and pre-determined then none of that would be necessary.
Does this make sense?
I posted on this very thread that I found an similar correlation >0.999 with the 1984 election and the 1980 census.
Do you believe some massive computer controlled the 1984 election? Really?
Knock it off with the name calling.
Yes, he’s a scumbag.
You’ve obviously never seen that poster RW C1 in action before.
Obviously
Never mind. I see how you roll. ;-)
Thanks for the heads up, I missed that. Bannon said he’ll have him on tomorrow for 2 segments to explain in detail.
The gaslighting classes gestapo - fact checkers
I don’t believe you duplicated the age strata correlation for registration to voting for 1984 with 0.999 correlation for all age groups.
Figures that you would pimp a known left-wing hit-job website.
Your analysis agrees with my expert’s analysis.
I wanted to share some thoughts that should resonate with everyone. I am a retired actuary who was a math major. However there are a number of theoretical things that I am not well versed in. I listened to Dr. Frank’s presentation and was compelled by it and I wanted to share it with my expert PhD in math who I am close with. (He contends strongly that that there is no vote fraud and he has done a credible research into a number of reporting. He is strongly fact based and would be willing to be proved wrong if the facts bear it out.) His approach was impressive as he downloaded the Ohio and Colorado data which is readily available. He demonstrated to me that the approach described by Dr. Frank is likely to produce a high correlation. This is consistent with your conclusion.
Here are some takeaways.
First as far as a physicist being an excellent mathematician (From a PhD in theoretical math) is highly questionable. His approach and conclusions has flaws. If this were put to the $5 million reward test, it would be easy for him to earn it. (I suspect that it might be easy for you.) I will assume that Dr. Frank has a pure heart and is not a fraud. I just think that his math analysis is poor. Also I think there is a big case of confirmation bias that he believed there is so much fraud that this approach lead to a solution that seemed to solve how the fraud is done. In fact, his explanation for moms that all counties in Ohio had 10% blond haired people. And that each state had a different percentage in all counties. Obviously everyone can agree that this is a ridiculous conclusion. It is an easy explanation to show that there is something wrong. Here is the problem - his approach doesn’t not correctly translate into this analogy. It is flawed mathematically. As you pointed out, the high correlation is expected. Using a 6 degree polynomial smooths this further.
Second. I was taken in in that I accepted some things that seemed plausible and was willing to accept the mathematical ability. My confirmation bias was very high in that I wanted proof to something that I still feel strongly about is that the election was stolen. It is easy to see Mike Lindell embracing this analysis because of the same confirmation bias. I will accept the good faith of Dr. Frank but his approach is faulty.
Let me look at this a different way. Assume that Dr. Frank’s approach and conclusions were correct. What would that mean. I think 2 things. One is that there is a vast conspiracy that permeates in every state. That is so vast that goes undetected? Also why use it in every state? That increases the risk of being discovered significantly. You only need to manipulate a handful of states. The other thing is that this rules out other frauds that is more prevalent in some places and counties such as unreviewed absentee ballots, switched votes, mail dumps, multiple scans, etc. These would produce a spike that would influence the data. It would show up in the results. The fact that I did not immediately think about that confirms my confirmation bias of desperately wanting proof (with perhaps some overturning of the election).
Lastly, I am frustrated as hell. I still am convinced of large scale voter fraud. The 2020 results do not make sense. The approach to uncover this has been abysmal.
Starting with Trump’s approach with Rudy Guiliani that devolved into the Lin Wood and Sydney Powell (releasing the Kracken) fiasco. It made it easy for the press to ridicule the approach. The Jan 6 rally was manipulated into the the modern version of the Reichstag thereby poisoning the well. Trump publicly chastising Pence was horrible. He should have presented proof to Pence privately and then incorporated the Republican leaders to privately show them to get them on board would have been better. If they did not have complete proof at least develop the case for requirement of audits.
Then Mike Lindell (a patriot that I admire) has a great heart and means well but is not an effective messenger. HE was manhandled on Jimmy Kimmel and his bravado was not backed up. His announcement of something earth shattering at 7 PM CST was a bust. (What’s with our side always telegraphing momentous events that turnout to be less than a whimper - eg Hannity numerous times.)
"During the 1990s, Dr. Frank helped to establish The Schilling School for Gifted Children in Cincinnati, Ohio. Schilling is a K-12 school for extraordinarily gifted youngsters, and Dr. Frank continues to teach a couple of their most advanced math and science classes each year, and continues to serve as the Math and Science Department chair."
Sounds like he teaches math to me.
I listened to Dr. Frank’s presentation and was compelled by it and I wanted to share it with my expert PhD in math who I am close with. (He contends strongly that that there is no vote fraud and he has done a credible research into a number of reporting. He is strongly fact based and would be willing to be proved wrong if the facts bear it out.)
Tell your maths PhD to compare the 2008 election numbers for each state by county with the 2020 "election" numbers for each state by county.
Do a spread sheet.
You'll see patterns that will blow your hair back [assuming you have hair to blow back].
Let me look at this a different way. Assume that Dr. Frank’s approach and conclusions were correct. What would that mean. I think 2 things. One is that there is a vast conspiracy that permeates in every state. That is so vast that goes undetected? Also why use it in every state? That increases the risk of being discovered significantly.
The Democrats aren't the only ones who are cheating:
Here’s Why So Many Republicans are Involved in Covering Up 2020 Election Fraud
https://archive.vn/cUUJX
If the Media ignores and poo-poos the vote fraud committed by the Uniparty, OF COURSE it will go "undetected".
Look at the sales job they pulled over Covid.
You asked why they would use it in every state.
It's like keeping a battery on trickle charge, or starting the engine of a car in storage occasionally. You want to see if it works if you need it.
Look what happened to Hillary in 2016. They didn't have their vote fraud machine in tune.
You can bet it was in tune in 2020, as the Time Magazine article bragged about.
Do some Excel spreadsheets comparing 2008 with 2020 by county. It doesn't take long.
I'll post back to you on this thread when I have Ohio done [starting from scratch].
Very interesting state. Now, I have to check the geographical location of the Dem cheating counties.
Cleveland Metro and Dayton Metro stood down. Wild.
They don’t mention Dr. Franks poor understanding of the meaning of correlation.
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Having listened to that part of the symposium, what Dr. Franks was talking about was the 2018 election and how POTUS Trump still blew them out because they couldn’t pack the roster enough by using the old tried and true of reinserting removed voters to the rolls.
I’ll add... That did also occur in 2020 but so much more also occurred. They’d learned their lesson in 2018 and had the system set up to pump out whatever numbers they ended up needing.
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